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Can Anyone Help Verify If These Coins Are Real?

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 Posted 11/25/2018  12:39 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add reslik to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hey everyone,
I've a few coins here if anyone has any idea of their authenticity,
I have also been unable to identify the Chinese(?) coin.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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 Posted 11/25/2018  2:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
#1 and #2: brass copies of silver originals, if the colour is correct. If the colour is not right, they copies in a different metal.
#3: a fantasy piece.
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 Posted 11/26/2018  4:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The first would purport to be a Spanish colonial 8 reales from the Mexico City mint - it is a cast copy and an extremely common Numismatic forgery (fraud). They are normally not made with any silver at all. Some are magnetic some are not. Some have reeded edges which makes them easy to spot. The more recent examples can at times be found with a colonial edge.

The second coin purports to be a Mexican 8 Reales from the Zacatecas mint. I first encountered this type in 1960 when I began collecting Cap and Ray coins, so it has been around for a long time. There are at least 7 different renditions of this fantasy - all are poorly made. It is a fabrication that has plagued ebay for decades as well. It is such a poor rendition of an original design that I find it hard to believe that anyone familiar with Mexican 8Rs from the Second Republic would be deceived. But it is still here.

The third is a poorly made cast copy of a Chinese medal. The general type (there are dozens of different types) have gotten entries in Unusual World coins as fantasy pieces.

All three are modern Chinese copies that sell in Hong Kong for under $1 wholesale. They are found in flea markets all over and are of no value to collectors. They should all be destroyed on sight.
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 Posted 11/26/2018  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The third medal is part of an extensive series of coin-like medals made privately in China. This particular medal commemorates one of the "Eighteen Arhats", the original disciples of Buddha according to Chinese Buddhism. You can, of course, buy medals depicting each of the 18. I believe this one is Arhat number 8, Vijraputra the "Laughing Lion Arhat", who is usually depicted playing with a lion cub.
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 Posted 11/29/2018  4:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with those that have already posted.
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These forgeries should all be destroyed
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