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1909 S Vbd LWC For Grading

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Please let me know what you think this would grade at, thank you!
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Are you sure that is an S mint mark?
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Appears to be a nice 1909 VDB with an unfortunate smudge on the planchet in the approximate location of where the MM would otherwise be placed.
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Trust me it's there john. Its damanged. My phone is not capable of really capturing it, I've ordered a macro lens attachment which should really help. Eithet way, humor me if you have your doubts but I assure you it's there, what do you think this would grade?
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The S mint mark is there. I actually believe it has been cleaned. With my loop, after doing some research,it looks like it has been scrubbed with a wire brush, and they nearly erased the mint mark.
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I'm another doubter . The bottom of the S doesn't look right to me . I'll just throw an MS-63 at this coin from your photos for a 1909-VDB .
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Grade wise,62-63
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I'm wondering if someone was trying to alter an 09VDB to make it look like an SVDB
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Can we get closeups of the mint mark with your microscope?
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What would it grade? It would not grade as an SVDB. Your "mintmark" could only be Die #1 or 2 given the relationship between its top and the tail of the first 9, but it is far too much to the right to be either of these. This is not an SVDB.
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MS-63RB 1909VDB.
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The position of the VDB and spacing of the dots after the initials is correct for a 1909-S-VDB, not a 1909-VDB. I was pretty skeptical that there is an S, as well, but it doesn't look like it can be a 1909-VDB. Regardless, it looks Unc details, harshly cleaned.
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I pass on guessing this one, since I am in the camp it is not an S mintmark, but if the OP is convinced it is he is best submitting it to either prove/disprove the assertion since it is not really saleable as an S-VDB without certification. I would be interested if the OP cherry picked this as a non-S coin or otherwise.

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If the OP can get this into a straight SVDB holder from NGC or PCGS, I will reimburse 100% of the fees.
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If the OP can get this into a straight SVDB holder from NGC or PCGS, I will reimburse 100% of the fees.
Well it is Christmas. Now if the OP does that and then gets a CAC on it, we know what has frozen over!

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Appears to be someone's failed attempt to fake an SVDB. As it stands, it would NEVER be able to be authenticated by anyone. In fact, I'll go in halves with Coinfrog!
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