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I think this coin may be from the region of Bohemia based on the two-tailed lion emblem. I have looked through sites showing coins from the Kingdom of Bohemia as well as various independent states, cities and bishoprics, as well as some states of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. There are quite a few coins with a version of this emblem, but I haven't found this one. It's about 17-18mm in diameter and the date is probably 1692 - the 169 is pretty clear but the fourth digit is a little obscure. I can't tell if it is the remains of an inscription around the lion. I think it is just decorative beading on the side with the crown. There appears to be lettering which may be L.L. - or L.E. -. The third character might be A, H or II. Does anyone know what this is? Groschen? Kreuzer?   |
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Some of the small principalities in SIlesia (Breslau, Glatz) also used this lion, though I haven't found anything that late in their history. Will keep looking... and  Edited by tdziemia
12/01/2018 9:57 pm
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It might be Bohemia half kreuzer like km490 or km560 or km602. Varieties exist and they were also assigned previous catalog numbers.
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12/02/2018 02:39 am
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Thank you for the replies. The (mostly obliterated) side does appear to have a '2' near the bottom of the design which might be the lower portion of 1/2. There doesn't seem to be much room for the upper half but it could be up and to the left.
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My idea of what it could be has been impaired because it's been very difficult to find some good picture examples.
Similar to Austrian Mints as 2 pfennig km1115, km1425
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12/02/2018 3:17 pm
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It might be Bohemia half kreuzer like km490 or km560 or km602.  Looking at the Numista entry for KM490, it is not too hard to imagine a different date placement, and if you see some initials starting with L, this also fits pretty well. |
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The KM490 is similar except the listing I see for it says it is uniface. Though very worn, this definitely has a design on both sides. I don't know very much about the coins or this region - is it common to modify the design from year to year with changes to the location of the date or whether or not there is a design on both sides? There is most certainly an 'L' on it - as for the other possible lettering, it's just my best guess. I can't make it out with any certainty.
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Yes, lower denomination European coins from that era often have significant variation from year to year. And remember that the KM numbers are created by the cataloger, not a guide to production of the coins--many design changes were missed in the cataloging.
(For an example, Brandenburg-Bayreuth KM# 247 is four distinct types with significant design differences if you look in catalogs from Germany.)
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Someone told me years ago that Krause does well on the large coins like Thalers, but poorly on "minors" or the smaller coins.
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