1954 D/D- Washington Quarter-Repunched Mint Mark / RPM ?

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chuckster 125 Pillar of the Community United States 4113 Posts	Posted 07/27/2008 1:11 pm This sure looks like an RPM to me. Opinions/Evaluations please! Image: 1954djpeg1.jpg 51.38 KB Image: 1954djpeg2.jpg 53.04 KB Image: 1954djpeg3.jpg 49.85 KB Image: 1954djpeg4.jpg 55.72 KB Image: 1954djpeg7.jpg 18.86 KB Image: 1954djpeg8.jpg 20.1 KB Image: 1954djpeg5.jpg 43.01 KB Image: 1954djpeg6.jpg 48.11 KB Report this Post to the Staff

John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 07/27/2008 1:18 pm Looks like a well worn RPM to me! John1 Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 07/27/2008 2:53 pm Looks like die movement. Is there evidence in other areas of this distortion. The Machine Doubling can distort that area or ejection doubling can affect some areas of the devices. Report this Post to the Staff
chuckster 125 Pillar of the Community United States 4113 Posts	Posted 07/27/2008 3:46 pm Hi Coop! Where and what am I supposed to look for evidence of die movement on this coin besides the mint-mark area we are discussing? Thanks, Chuck. Report this Post to the Staff
foundinrolls Pillar of the Community United States 3507 Posts	Posted 07/27/2008 4:15 pm Hi, It's just a damaged D. In the overall scheme of things it is critical to know what the mint mark is supposed to look like when it is undamaged. On this D, it was either hit, or the die scraped it. metal was moved across the surface of the D from left to right and then circulation wear made it a little more smooth. Thanks, Bill Report this Post to the Staff
chuckster 125 Pillar of the Community United States 4113 Posts	Posted 07/27/2008 4:19 pm Coop: Not sure if this was what you wanted to see, but here are extra pictures of the Reverse. I realize the coin is well worn, but I don't see any signs of Machine Doubling or die movement (imho) but I'm no expert on any of this. Image: 1954Dset2jpeg1.jpg 41.66 KB Image: 1954Dset2jpeg2.jpg 48.05 KB Image: 1954Dset2jpeg3.jpg 49.96 KB Image: 1954Dset2jpeg4.jpg 41.41 KB Image: 1954Dset2jpeg5.jpg 46.88 KB Image: 1954Dset2jpeg6.jpg 49.2 KB Report this Post to the Staff
chuckster 125 Pillar of the Community United States 4113 Posts	Posted 07/27/2008 4:28 pm Hi Bill: Question- if this was damaged, and then moved, how does that explain what appears to be 3 D's from a head on and side angle picture? Is this a ripple effect? Do you have a picture of a normal 1954D mint-mark that I can compare actual size to? Thanks, Chuck. Report this Post to the Staff
foundinrolls Pillar of the Community United States 3507 Posts	Posted 07/27/2008 4:59 pm You don't get three D's on a coin this worn. I'll look for a 54 D and see if I can get a pic posted. Don't go away:-) This will take a few minutes.... Oh...if it was an RPM that was that far into the D on the left...you would see a large bulge to the right of the D, probably with a nice area of separation. I'll be back.... Edited by foundinrolls 07/27/2008 5:00 pm Report this Post to the Staff
foundinrolls Pillar of the Community United States 3507 Posts	Posted 07/27/2008 5:18 pm I did some diggin' and I can't lay my hands on a '54 D without doing major excavating:-) When I find one, I'll post it here. In any case, the first coin in the thread is still not an RPM:-) Thanks, Bill Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 07/27/2008 7:14 pm Chuck: It doesn't look like any other Machine Doubling on the reverse. Part of the reason I mentioned the die movement/ejection doubling was the metal push on the West side of the mint mark. On BU coins (Cents is my specialty) you can see lines. Not die flow lines, but lines from a rough edge sliding over the metal. I've seen that on a few Lincolns and noticed it appear that way also. I have a Kennedy half that also displays the same marking/pushing on mint mark. Like Bill mentioned, even a bent punch can distort the mint mark. Other coins from the same year may show the same thing if this is the case. Good thought Bill. Report this Post to the Staff
chuckster 125 Pillar of the Community United States 4113 Posts	Posted 07/27/2008 9:53 pm Thanks for all the responses. Report this Post to the Staff
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1954 D/D- Washington Quarter-RPM?