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Balbinus Antoninian - Is It Good Or Fake?

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 Posted 12/15/2018  3:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Wonder if this comes from the same perpetrators.


Well, except that the coin in that thread was pressed from transfer dies whereas the one here would have to have been cast (given the identical flan shapes). Either way, scary. Fakers are getting really good at this stuff.
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 Posted 12/15/2018  7:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jskirwin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Fakers are getting really good at this stuff.


I sometimes wonder if we are helping them evolve with the "one and done" posters who post something for us to vet and then disappear. Although I've never seen them post anything beyond the garden variety tourist fakes and casts.
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This documented fake was sold as genuine by a prominent European auction house in 2016 to an American collector for nearly 30,000 euros. I have been informed that as late as August of this year, the dealer was still refusing to make good on the sale. The link tells the full story but unless you read Finnish, you'll need to use the translate function in your browser. https://rahakabinetti.wordpress.com...ennosfarssi/
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 Posted 12/16/2018  11:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can see where this coin would fool even the experts the details and patina are consistent to what the original would look like. It would be nice to know how it was determined to be fake.
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...looks good to my green eyes!?.....Now thats scary!.....

What are the detais that make this coin fake?

At 30,000 bucks someone really thought this coin was real (and when we're talking about this kind of investment its a series collector involved!....Paul
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It is discussed here, Paul: http://www.forumfw.com/t19696-lanz
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Just the letter B is the determining factor on this coin, amazing.
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Thanks for the link Bob. I'll have a read.
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To avoid tipping off the fakesters, the IBSCC usually keep their information confidential, available only to IAPN members. It would be nice if the information were made more accessible to the community but I understand their rationale https://www.iapn-coins.org/ibscc.html
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I added over a thousand fake reports in the Forvm fake database for coins from a variety of the IAPN BOC volumes after we obtained permission from the IAPN to place them online. If you search for IAPN then you will see them there. It is primarily older still from the BoC but it is something.
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