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Chinese Sun Yat Sen Dollar (Id: Reproduction "Memento" Dollar)

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 Posted 12/31/2018  12:13 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add guychoy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello all,

I need some help with this coin that my Dad recently bought at a cosignment shop in Los Angeles.

I can't seem to find any other coins online that match the back of this coin. The Chinese characters say 5 dollars, but the text says one dollar. I don't know if this is real of not.

Any help would be great, thanks!
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 Posted 12/31/2018  02:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's likely you may come to learn that it is not an authentic coin.
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I can't say what it is attempting to be, but I can tell it is a poorly manufactured fake. The fonts are bad enough, but then there is the profile...
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@GC, first welcome to CCF. Second, could you please confirm whether or not this coin is attracted to a magnet? Thx.
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I'd be surprised if it is attracted. About all of mine that look this way are cast of pot metal. The fakes I have that are attracted tend to have sharper, well defined characters, composed of steel.
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Thanks everyone for chimming in, the coin is not attracted to a magnet.
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If he bought it for one dollar or two, just as a curiosity, or to give it as an oddity gift to a coin collector, that's understandable.
I have friends that give me similar fakes because they know I am making a binder with photos and data.
I highly doubt that any legitimate coin was ever made with this particular design- I failed to find one.
It's likely to be 20% below the weight of a Chinese dollar.
Chinese SYS dollar coins did not have the Chinese number 5 on them.
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@Albert I believe there is a genuine Chinese Sun Yat Sen Dollar "Memento" dollar I think that what its trying to fake.

However that one is definitely a fake magnets are no way to rule out Chinese fakes (there is way to many with way to many variations, both real and fakes), this one is more of a token.
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Yes I am aware of the SYS dollars and the variations, patterns and so on.
I just don't know exactly why 5 Yuan would be on the coin.
My best guess is to avoid penalty or to pass customs because the item is obviously ridiculous, so it cannot be considered an imitation or construed to be a counterfeit of an actual legitimate coin.
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@Albert my guess is the size (probably closer to a crown size or larger) of the intimation is why there is 5 dollars as it is only suppose to fool the beginner in coin collecting or the silver stackers.
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I did consider it could be one of the absurd Taels, but we don't know the size or weight.
I have a collection of fake taels but none that look like the coin we have here.
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