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Pillar of the Community
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This is going to be a long post. I do apologize to the moderators for not adding the dates and denomination to the heading as there was not enough room. I have this 1973 P LMC, 1983 D LMC,1985 D LMC,1991 D LMC,1994 D LMC, 2004 D LMC and lastly this 2012 P LSC. Seems like I have posted something about this one other time (memory faded) but have added a few more since. Five different decades represented and all share the same things, rough texture, slanted devices, coloring for the most part is similar except the 2102 P LSC. When I first started seeing these my initial thought was they were altered chemically but I have a couple of those already and they are nothing alike. Chemicals alter the size of the devises in an up and down fashion and appear bubbly in texture, these do not. The devises on these cents are slanted and erratic. I believe the chemically altered cent is non existent in these cents case. I thought it might be a zinc issue until the solid copper 1973 P showed up so zinc is not the issue nor is it a plating issue again, as the 1973 P shows. These cents are not PSD in my opinion so EXACTLY what die event occurred that caused this to happen in five different decades? Loose die event? Anvil die event? Hammer die event? Are these things common? I don't care if they are valuable or not as I think they are 2x2 worthy just for the oddity of these anomalies. I am looking for definitive answers as to what caused this. I am sure our resident experts will have that definitive answer I am looking for.                                                 |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Just spendable change. Save the 2X2's for a respectable coin. I say this from experience. I have three albums of coins I put in 2X2's when I first started collecting. Then realized later I spent 5 cents each coin for a one cent value coin. So don't do it. Spend them.
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I may just do that Mr. Coop. Now, what exactly caused this? This isn't PSD. |
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To me these coins look like they were rescued from a shopping mall water fountain or a wishing well.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Maybe someone Squeezed with with sand paper or some grit of some type. Just the parking lot coins, they are just damaged. They weren't struck like that.
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Mr. Coop, you may very well be right but I am having a hard time buying the parking lot or sand paper theory. I believe this is some type of die event. You may be right but I hope I'm right.
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Bedrock of the Community
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It it were a die event, every coin would look like that from the fresh roll. All the coins I've seen from a fresh roll, never look like any of those coins. These looked like freddy Kruger messed with them.  |
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Pillar of the Community
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Love that Freddy meme!! I guess with the rims not being completely flattened on both sides just make me think differently.
Edited by Jim0815
01/08/2019 1:52 pm
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I would put your examples into one of two categories.
1-Zinc deterioration like cancer coming through the Copper Plating.
2-Very poor quality plating.
I'm familiar with electroplating, but the new Zinc coins are of such poor quality in my opinion, they look like they were spray painted copper. Of course they aren't, but I would like to know the exact method used to plate the zinc coins.
I have examined many fake cast copper coins from China, and many of the U.S. Cents made in thew last 40 years look very similar.
I don't know what the added cost would be, but a zinc core with a thin copper clad would make decent coins. I seriously doubt that U.S. coins minted after 1982, will survive 100 years.
Dan
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Pillar of the Community
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Panther, you could do that except the 1973 puts that in dispute.
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Pillar of the Community
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Your coins display combination of the following: Spend them. Edited by Chase007
01/08/2019 2:10 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Jim;
Did they already attempt the clad copper penny ?
Dan
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Pillar of the Community
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Dan,
Of that, I have no idea.
Jim
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Pillar of the Community
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Jim; Expand on your comment about the 73 LMC. I see 3 billion made but no reference to why some are so valuable ? Yet I do see 1973-D selling for big bucks ? Dan |
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Dan, in your initial reply you stated it could a plating issue. I just said the 73 would refute that as it is not plated and is copper. I believe the 73 D may have a doubled die or two raising the price of some of them.
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Pillar of the Community
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Jim;
I'm sorry I thought you had only posted post copper coins. I didn't see the 73.
Dan
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