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Five Different Decades Of Lincoln Cents Sharing The Same Die Event.

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 Posted 01/08/2019  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
It it were a die event, every coin would look like that from the fresh roll. All the coins I've seen from a fresh roll, never look like any of those coins. These looked like freddy Kruger messed with them.
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 Posted 01/08/2019  1:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list
Love that Freddy meme!! I guess with the rims not being completely flattened on both sides just make me think differently.
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01/08/2019 1:52 pm
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 Posted 01/08/2019  1:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Panther to your friends list
I would put your examples into one of two categories.

1-Zinc deterioration like cancer coming through the Copper Plating.

2-Very poor quality plating.

I'm familiar with electroplating, but the new Zinc coins are of such poor quality in my opinion, they look like they were spray painted copper. Of course they aren't, but I would like to know the exact method used to plate the zinc coins.
I have examined many fake cast copper coins from China, and many of the U.S. Cents made in thew last 40 years look very similar.
I don't know what the added cost would be, but a zinc core with a thin copper clad would make decent coins. I seriously doubt that U.S. coins minted after 1982, will survive 100 years.

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 Posted 01/08/2019  2:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list
Panther, you could do that except the 1973 puts that in dispute.
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 Posted 01/08/2019  2:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chase007 to your friends list
Your coins display combination of the following:

PSD
ZINC ROT
DDD
MD


Spend them.
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01/08/2019 2:10 pm
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 Posted 01/08/2019  2:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Panther to your friends list
Jim;

Did they already attempt the clad copper penny ?
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 Posted 01/08/2019  2:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list
Dan,
Of that, I have no idea.
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 Posted 01/08/2019  2:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Panther to your friends list
Jim;
Expand on your comment about the 73 LMC. I see 3 billion made but no reference to why some are so valuable ? Yet I do see 1973-D selling for big bucks ?

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 Posted 01/08/2019  2:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list
Dan, in your initial reply you stated it could a plating issue. I just said the 73 would refute that as it is not plated and is copper. I believe the 73 D may have a doubled die or two raising the price of some of them.
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 Posted 01/08/2019  3:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Panther to your friends list
Jim;
I'm sorry I thought you had only posted post copper coins. I didn't see the 73.

Dan
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 Posted 01/08/2019  3:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list
Consensus says they are spenders. To the back to the bank pile they go. Thanks everyone for your feedback. Normally I am a go with the flow kinda fellow. I've learned a pretty good lesson today. I've got a pretty good grip on MD, DDD and most other things involving errors but for some reason I was just a little hard headed about this one as I've not seen this type of PSD. Again, lesson learned. Thanks again.
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 Posted 01/08/2019  5:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list
As others have said, these coins are variously afflicted by corrosion, chemical damage, staining, and Die Deterioration. Nothing wrong with the dies, as far as I can tell.
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Thanks Mike. Going back to the bank pile.
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 Posted 01/08/2019  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list
With one exception (the 2012 cent), all of the coins predate August 29, 2005. That's the date Katrina swamped New Orleans. In my opinion, at least some of your coins (1973, 1983-D, 1985-D) look very much like Katrina coins. The other coins just look like they have plating damage and bubbles and zinc rot.

The 1973 cent appears to have the tell-tale orange tinge of a chemically cleaned Katrina coin. The zinc cents have varying degrees of zinc rot. Copper coins submerged in the post-Katrina toxic soup fared relatively well. They survived, and could (somewhat) be cleaned chemically. Zinc Katrina cents had low survival rates and did not respond to chemical treatment.

We see Katrina (and now Harvey) coins in circulation fairly frequently around the Front Range. The orange appearance of the copper cents is a dead give-away. Having been in post-Katrina New Orleans for flood recovery assistance, I know the nastiness that Katrina coins were swimming in for weeks. Chemical cleaning or not, I don't trust them and don't want them around. I get rid of them as quickly as I can, and I readily admit to throwing some in the trash just to make them go away.

JMHO, but I think you have at least three Katrinas and all of the coins in your photos are spenders.
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01/08/2019 8:15 pm
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 Posted 01/08/2019  8:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list
Thank you for that information! They are definitely gone.
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