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Possible Islamic Coins? Need Help Identifying

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 Posted 01/13/2019  03:27 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add joshbee to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I obtained these coins recently. I have always had a thing for islamic coins, just unfortunately I have no idea where to even start learning how to identify anything like this. Can anybody help me out identifying what I have here?
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Thank you for looking!
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 Posted 01/13/2019  04:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kushanshah to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The large coin is Pishkinids, Nusrat al-Din Mahmud b. Pishkin, 1212-1226, as vassal of the Ildegizid atabeg Uzbek, also citing the 'Abbasid caliph al-Nasir. Struck at Ahar, a city of historic Azerbaijan, today in the NW corner of Iran. Known dated AH 612 and 613.

The small coin is an Ottoman akche of Murad II b. Mehmet, first reign 1421-1444, struck at Serez, dated AH 834.

The third I think is a relatively modern coin of Iran or one of the Central Asian Khanates.
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01/13/2019 05:44 am
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 Posted 01/13/2019  10:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hvedo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The third coin is qajar mohammad shah or fathali shah not very clear on the image to give a accurate answer.
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Kushanshah, Thank you!

Those are looking good for the first two- I am struggling with the third one still. It looks like flower petals around the circle and running comparisons like hvedo mentions "qajar mohammad shah or fathali shah". When you say relatively modern, you think I should check 1700s and 1800s for the regions you mentioned?

EDIT: no luck with iran
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It is in fact Iran. Tweaking your photos a bit, I was able to read Muhammad Shah on the obverse and Isfahan on the reverse. Denomination will depend on weight. Date may be discernible in a better photo.
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Very interesting. I dont think this coin is in the Krause Catalogs as I went through all Iran entries from 1600 on. No examples on ebay either. I found something a little similar on acsearch: https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=877852
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If it weighs about 5.3g it should be KM 797.2, Muhammad Shah, Isfahan, type D.
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I took some better pictures, and I weighed it. It is 5.34-5.35 grams. Are you able to tell the date with the lighter picture?
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Possible-Islamic-Coins?-Need-Help-Identifying

Not sure why the pictures turned sideways, sorry! Is Isfahan the mint?
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Yes, Isfahan is the mint. The date is incredibly tiny, perhaps 1255?
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Quote:
Yes, Isfahan is the mint. The date is incredibly tiny, perhaps 1255?


Can we make Kushanshah the king of Islamic numismatics already?
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Can you tell me where to look for the date so I can continue to work on it?
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Can we make Kushanshah the king of Islamic numismatics already?
Surely there's at least drnsreedhar (or however he's spelled) to contend with...

And that's assuming that Medieval never decides to return (and that Kushanshah isn't the same person as Medieval, which I did occasionally wonder about).
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Thank you very much for your time Kushanshah!
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