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United States
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Latest addition to my counterfeit collection. I spotted this Chinese fake in a small lot of wheat cents, sent a note to the seller, and offered to buy it as a buy it now for a fixed price with full knowledge that I was buying it as a fake for my collection. He didn't seem to honestly know it was a "bad penny" and accepted my offer. Quite the odd looking thing and was immediately obviously not right. 1909-VDB Lincoln Wheat cent - Chinese fake 2.98g   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The B in VDB, was a pretty good fake marker. The 0 in the date is another. Good eye spotting that thing!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Oh come on now, look at the 9 in the date, how could you not like a Doubled Die VDB?  |
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
6108 Posts |
Not just the 9 in the date, it is DDO / DDR as also look at how thick the lower wheat stalks are! |
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United States
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
62064 Posts |
The rims are also not correct. Looks more like an obverse of a 1960's cent. The VDB initial also looks strange to me also.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Looks like a 2nd or 3rd generation hubbed die off an original coin, or a date or VDB altered original coin.
Details are mushy.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Interesting addition.  In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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United States
6108 Posts |
I agree with Coop that the die does not seem to be made from an original 1909 but a much later cent. I don't have a late die stage handy but here is a comparison. Also looks very much like the whole date area was removed and then that oddity of a 1909 was put on afterwards. 1909 VDB Lincoln wheat cents: real vs fake  |
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For me, the tip-off was the misshapen date.
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United States
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The method used to make the fakes, is casting instead of striking. The surface will have a sandy appearance and lack crisp detail in the devices. The first time you see one, you might well be impressed, until you give it the microscope view. BTW, I know I should put this in the classifieds, but I have an extra 1804 U.S. Silver dollar for sale I'll let it go for $100.00.  Dan |
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United States
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At that price everyone should have one! Here's mine.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The clear zero on the date was a tip off for me.
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United States
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Thanks for posting this. It's helpful! Chinese counterfeits are getting crazier all the time. WHY counterfeit a 1909 VDB? My last encounter with a Chinese fake head-scratcher was an 1899-O Morgan VAM mule that appeared to be EF-40 with lots of heavy contact marks. That "gem" would have been in any pawn shop junk box, and the margin between the silver plated lead-tin core and a genuine coin would only have been a couple dollars over minting cost. It's disturbing, though, that they think it's worth counterfeiting common coins. |
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Posted 01/22/2019 9:37 pm
