Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Royal Estate Auctions - $1 Coin AuctionsSpecializing in Modern Numismatics Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall 300,000 items to help build your collection!








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

Numismatic Forgery 1777 8 Reales

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 3 / Views: 1,203Next Topic  
Pillar of the Community
swamperbob's Avatar
United States
5362 Posts
 Posted 02/03/2019  12:36 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
There have been several recent postings of rather similar Numismatic Forgeries. I will be posting three different coins tonight.

All three auctions included edge pictures. I would like to focus on those edges and ask in each case - specifically what is wrong with the edge?

Here is the first coin: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1777-MO-FM...283353239974

Numismatic-Forgery-1777-8-Reales
New Member
United States
37 Posts
 Posted 02/03/2019  12:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doges to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Aside from the unusually aggressive overlap that I've personally never seen on these types (wouldn't that make the thickness of this coin too much?), the circles aren't even circles, they look like circle cutouts within a square; looking further at it, the alternating shapes relative to how they are next to each other don't even appear aligned. Along with what appears to be very questionable surfaces, it's a real mystery how this coin sold for $360?

Considering an authentic AU example costs less than that...
Edited by doges
02/03/2019 08:09 am
Pillar of the Community
United States
1915 Posts
 Posted 02/03/2019  3:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Apart from the edge, doesn't the field indicate porosity resulting from a casting instead of being struck with steel dies?
Pillar of the Community
swamperbob's Avatar
United States
5362 Posts
 Posted 02/04/2019  12:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
doges You are correct - the edge is one of the worst I have seen on a recently made example. The forger had no clue as to what a genuine edge looked like.

You commented on the length of the overlap - that is a very good point actually. Even if the edge design was perfect - a doubled application is usually found on a coin that is not genuine. The fact that nearly two complete edges are visible could mean the coin was too thick or the design was too small. Either way it never really happens.

Albert I agree with you that, the coin is most likely a casting, however it can be hard to be 100% certain in pictures. My focus in the three posts I made tonight was the edge.
  Previous TopicReplies: 3 / Views: 1,203Next Topic  

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.19 seconds to rattle this change. Forums