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My First Ever Medieval Coin Jaume II

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Hi guys!

After seeing echizento, tdziemia, Spence and others posting threads on medieval coinage I decided to purchase one and slowly start to learn about these type coins....So help needed PLEASE! ...How to read the legends, types of coins, mint marks etc....References that are easily downloaded...

My only preference when it comes to medieval coins is that It has a portrait (the more abstract the better), Spanish, and not too expensive..Any tips?

Thought I'd start with a reasonably common type coin that can be found here quite easily, saying that this one looks in nice condition and I paid 36 euros seems to be a good price?...

Any thoughts and help for a 'complete beginner' will be much appreciated..

Auction house attibution below...Anything that can be added? Thanks in advance Paul
Corona de Aragón. Jaime II (1291-1327). Dinero jaques. Aragón. (Cr-364). Ve. 1,17 g. MBC+.
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Legends: ARAGON // IACOBVS REX. Letter forms are typical for the period. If you poke around the listings at major auction sites, you'll find that many of the classic references are still in use. Almost anything published before 1927 should be free to download at sites like books.google.com, archive.org, hathitrust.org, etc.

There is an inexpensive beginner's guide in English: Lhotka, John F. and P.K. Anderson (1989), Survey of Medieval Iberian Coinages, New York.

https://www.abebooks.com/book-searc...an-coinages/

For Spanish coins medieval to modern, I used to use Clemente and Cayón, Las Mondeas Españolas. Del Tremis al Euro del 411 a Nuestros Dias, 2005 Edition, 2 volumes, 1466 pages, profusely illustrated with photographs and line drawings, valuations in Euros. In Spanish but easy to use; short introduction in English. Volume I covers Dark Ages, Islamic, Medieval Christian and Modern issues through Carlos III, including colonial issues of Mexico, Bolivia, Peru etc. Volume II includes modern issues from Carlos IV through 1998. I'm not certain if it is still the go-to guide or if something has replaced it. I believe it is the same Juan Cayon as the Spanish numismatic firm: http://www.cayon.com. A reasonably-priced copy at C.G.B. (France): https://www.cgbfr.es/las-monedas-es...lm124,a.html
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Excellent detail on this coin, plus living in the country from which it can makes it's all the more interesting. I have a few medieval coins from Spain but not as nice as this. Looks like the medieval bug is catching.
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Very nice - love the portrait style!
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Thanks everyone!...I'm glad you like the coin...


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Very nice - love the portrait style!

Yep me too! Its what draw me to the coin.....


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Excellent detail on this coin, plus living in the country from which it can makes it's all the more interesting.

Yes that's a good point Ron!....Starting to read about the history of the country I've lived in for the past 16 years and the coinage it has produced over the last few centuries has quite blown me away!...The Areas , Cities and towns mentioned in relation to bygone rulers here has made me realise just how lucky I am!, as I've worked in or visited a lot of them and it makes it just that little bit more special!..Ron is there anything in the sticky section you would recommend looking at?

@ KS Thank you very much for the information, really appreciated!....This shows how much of a novice I am when it comes to medieval coinage as I couldn't even read the legend! But I suppose everyone has to start somewhere ...I've just purchased 'the Survey of Medieval Iberian Coinages' book you recommended luckily from a friend for $15 will receive it at the weekend

Thanks again to all ...Paul
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Paul, not much there about medieval coinage. I'm sure Bspence and KS could make some recommenations.
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After seeing echizento, tdziemia, Spence and others posting threads on medieval coinage I decided to purchase one and slowly start to learn about these type coins.



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Looks like the medieval bug is catching.


You are making my day!


Added: I agree with @kushanshah about the books--I have a well worn copy of C&C that gets lots of use.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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Beautiful coin ... that's quite a way to start!

I don't collect Spain, so I have nothing to offer on references. If I recall, those coronatos with portraits have a nice long run, so that could keep you busy for a while (though I imagine that you will eventually be adding plenty of lions, castles and coats of arms complementing your portrait coins ).

On reading the legends, there's a lot of variety in styles, ways of abbreviating names, etc (am I seeing an I or an L? C or an E? a lower case n or h? ). I am guessing that with a good reference, you'll be off to the races.

Last but not least, there are the stories behind symbols like that double cross. I wasn't aware it was used in Spain (it's all over the Lorraine coins I collect, starting in the 15th century, and features in Armenia, Hungary, Lithuania ...). Almost certainly there is an interesting story there.
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Thanks to everyone!

Its time for me to sit down and do some serious research and will return to this thread with my findings..Some history, a breakdown of the coin and 'VERY' interestingly something I didn't realise I had until tdziemia mentioned
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symbols like that double cross


Thanks again Paul
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