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1969 S Identification Of Error Needed

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I have this 1969 s cent that I need help understanding what I am seeing. I was excited at first thinking it was a doubled die.
I have an additional question that I've searched for the answer to online but have found very little to help me understand. Doubled dies are basicly the same because it was the die itself that created the variety. I think I said that right. Now the question..does Machine Doubling produce the same error on all the coins for that year with the same die set up and time of striking? Will the same error happen repeatedly
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To CCF! You have a different type of Machine Doubling called Push Doubling that actually increases the size of the devices instead of normally reducing them in size.
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If you want a doubled die assessment, you'll need to add at least a date with mint mark image. Prefer full obverse and reverse image as well.

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Now the question..does Machine Doubling produce the same error on all the coins for that year with the same die set up and time of striking? Will the same error happen repeatedly

Answer is not always the same. If the die(s) is/are loose and moving around it can seem similar, but yet a bit different one strike to the next on the same die pair run. Machine damage is common this year, even on the actual known Doubled Dies. Thanks, Doug.
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Even during the same run, with the same looseness of the machine they can be different from strike to strike:
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Machine Doubling does play by any rules. It can vary from mild to extreme. It just depends on the machine.

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Thank You for the warm welcome. I apprieciate everyone's input as I am so new to coin collecting. I've been reading about DDD. I have just finished going through this BY roll and I have found 9 of the exact same error! So is that explained as being damage to the die since they are all the exact same? I love my new find! Even of they aren't "valueble" ..they are to me!
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Even from this view I can see it is not the big DDO:
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The doubling is not just on the date.
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*BU roll
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Nice images, but covered the larger image with a smaller one. That said, I can see the mint mark does not line up with any of the known documented examples. Thanks, Doug.
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Great example of MD, good eye and well worth keeping.



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ya..im not very good at croppin' and down loadin'

I was so excited when I first found this. With the help here I was better able to understand what I have with these cents. I had myself all kinds of happy with a pep in my step all day.I am happy I took my time examining the rest. Nine in one roll confounds me! I also found 3 Mechanical Doubling on the date/ mintmark and 1 with what looks like Mechanical Doubling (I think) on the S and T in TRUST! What a high you get finding stuff like this! Thank you for the kind words all.
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