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I came across a couple of Anglo Saxon coins that I am interested in buying however I have no reference material on this type and my web searches have not come up with this one coin I want. I would appreciate any help with identification and whether it is genuine or not.


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Very different portrait here, Ron, but similar legend: https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3734885
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Thanks Bob, I don't know how I miss that I thought I checked there thoroughly.
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Here are a couple more, similar - but very different busts...concerning?:

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1652925

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1217459
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Yes to me. A variation in the legend? Fine. But a different portrait raises a red flag for me.

In looking at my Spink, I see that Burgred's coins seem to have small denticles or dots comprising the outer circle (near the rim), but this feature is solid on this piece. On the other hand, maybe I'm being too nervous...
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Hopefully I'll win the auction, kit would be my first Anglo Saxon coin.
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Well you win some and lose some. Somebody wanted this coin a little more than I did.
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Ah bummer Ron, but you will live to bid another day. In the meanwhile, having you looked at the French medievals in the current Triskeles auction?
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Not really happy with what I see here, for two reasons:-
1. Ref. Google for Lombardic lettering style.

2. The lettering for hammered coins of this period in England (as well as in Europe), was made by composing EACH letter with a series of (usually) cruciform punches into the coin die.
The lettering in this case looks like it was made with a whole single punch for each letter.

For this reason, I am thinking the coin itself may have been cast.
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Interesting observation Sel, not being familiar with the type I limited myself to how high I would bid in cast it wasn't right. I'm going to have to get some reference books on Saxon coinage before I venture into this area.

Dave I did see the coins.
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Nevertheless, I am still certainly open to the idea that the coin is NOT cast.
I am far from being an expert on this series myself.
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