| Author |
Replies: 15 / Views: 1,610 |
|
|
New Member
United States
11 Posts |
|
|
|
|
Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
You can quibble, but you were lucky to avoid a details grade (ED) looking at that reverse.  to the CCF!
Edited by Coinfrog 03/05/2019 8:14 pm
|
|
Rest in Peace
United States
18456 Posts |
I can't get it higher than VG-8 with no LIBERTY . 
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
745 Posts |
I'm surprised the "pin holes" by the date didn't details grade it
Tim Hughes
|
|
Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
 And the reverse is a disaster. This coin will never bring G-06 money. A misgraded details coin, and a reminder that a straight grade from a top TPG is no guarantee 
Edited by Coinfrog 03/05/2019 8:32 pm
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
2610 Posts |
For VG-8, you need three letters of LIBERTY to show, and I don't see any. This may be weakly struck, although the 1895-O is usually pretty good as far as New Orleans Barber dimes are concerned. Looks like G-6 Details to me. For any Barber dime, I would hold out for a problem-free example. 
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
1005 Posts |
I'd have it at VG-10 but the obverse damage by the date would make it VG details. I see no indication of environmental damage
|
|
Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
Have you enlarged the reverse? 
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
3843 Posts |
I think this one has been net graded.
|
|
Bedrock of the Community
13014 Posts |
I don't have an issue with the old obverse hole, that said yes the reverse and as a whole
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
4233 Posts |
You're going to need at least LI to get VG8. The good news is that there's not a whole lot of price difference between 6 and 8 (Heritage G6 2/26/19 $406, VG8 1/15/19 $432), and you lucked out on the surface damage. Even if it came back VG8, I think you'd only get G6 money for it anyway because of that. You do have a point - this one got PCGS VG10 and not discernibly better than yours - https://coins.ha.com/itm/barber-dim...nail-071515. But again the price difference isn't much, and I think we're down there in that "just to have one better than slick" price range.
|
|
Bedrock of the Community
13014 Posts |
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
4233 Posts |
Seriously? 
|
|
Bedrock of the Community
United States
20753 Posts |
If you need that coin to fill a spot in an Album, don't worry about grade. You could always get a better one some day.
|
|
New Member
 United States
11 Posts |
Here are my 2 cents on this coin for what its worth.
There is certainly a black foreign substance/residue on the reverse surface which makes it look "ugly", but I do not believe that foreign residue on the surface of a coin is cause for a "details" grade. "Details" designations describes the surface of the coin (corroded, damaged, scratched, cleaned, etc), and I see no indication that the surface of the coin is damaged, corroded, or affected in anyway by the black residue. Several people mentioned "environmental damage", but ED is characterized by a pitted surface due to corrosion. Perhaps the residue is corroding/pitting the underlying surface, but you cannot see it because of how thick and dark the residue is. However, the surfaces that are visible do not appear to be pitted or corroded. If the substance covers too much of the details, then it should have been returned as "not gradeable" rather than receiving a details grade.
Grades are based on the overall level of detail remaining on both sides of the coin. They are not based on the amount of detail at specific localized spots on the coin (e.g. how many letters are visible in 'LIBERTY') because each coin wears down a little bit differently. Compare the level of detail to the PCGS photograde and to other coins graded G6-VG10. Kbbpll provided a good side by side comparison to one graded VG10. I don't really see "LI" or "LIB" on that example, but there is enough detail remaining on the rest of the coin to justify the VG10 grade. The same is true for this coin.
I believe this coin should have been graded VG10, but the ugliness due to the dark residue on the reverse would certainly decrease the value compared to other VG10 samples, just like attractive toning on a coin increases the value compared to others with the same grade.
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
1005 Posts |
Agree with every single point from mithril, just didn't have the energy to articulate. Thank you
|
| |
Replies: 15 / Views: 1,610 |
|