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Pillar of the Community
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I was going to start by saying "this one really cracks me up," but I was sure I would be PUNished for that. This is a 1956-D with a die crack from the rim to BERTY, with a beginning BIE thrown in. (Given the die crack, that could make it an IDB.) The die crack touches the top left branch of the "Y" and continues to the point where Lincoln's coat meets his neck. There is a weak continuation of the break across Lincoln's coatline at the neck. There is another weak crack connecting to it, and that crack continues to Lincoln's beard, where it meets a north-south crack through his head. Another weak crack appears along the front of the portrait. This was one tired, worn-out obverse die. Looking at cuds-on-soins.com, it appears that this one is unlisted. Using their naming convention, I think this would be described as LDB34567-1956D-### or LDB3456-1956D-### (depending on whether the contact with the "Y" is sufficient). Thoughts? Here are the mug shots and detail photos:         |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Very interesting. The 1 in the date is simply damaged, though.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Very interesting find!
Errers and Varietys.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Looks more like a struck through or lamination issue. (partly peeling)
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Thoughts? A couple: first, I don't see from your pics the die crack extending between the E and the R. I'm not saying that it isn't there when you look at the coin in hand, but rather in the pics that are posted. I'm pretty sure that I see it pick up from the R and continue to the Y, but I agree that it is a little faint. I would send it in and see what they think with (if possible) a better pic showing the entire die crack. Ignoring the die crack and just focusing on the die chip between B and the E, we have seen this style BIE error before. I called it a "B_E", although now that I search this keyword within CCF, I see that @rmpsrpms had the same idea back in 2010: http://goccf.com/t/321903http://goccf.com/t/72242"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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Pillar of the Community
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I think it's a minor B_E, with a LAM on it
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Very interesting. The 1 in the date is simply damaged, though. @Coinfrog, Correct. This coin is pretty beaten up. The "1" is PMD. I got this critter in change sometime in the last few months, so it's had a rough life. Quote:
Looks more like a struck through or lamination issue. (partly peeling) @coop, That's a possibility. I can't rule it out. The one from the rim to the "B" is sharply raised. In hand, under 40x, I can't see an indentation that would match a struck-through. There is also a significant amount of extra metal on the lower SE curve of the "B." It is almost at the same level as the "B_E" chip. With my equipment, I haven't been able to get a low enough angle to capture that on a photo. Quote:
A couple: first, I don't see from your pics the die crack extending between the E and the R. I'm not saying that it isn't there when you look at the coin in hand, but rather in the pics that are posted. @Spence, Here are two more pics, one closeup and the other a marked closeup. There are actually three cracks between the "E" and the "R" on LIBERTY. All are weak hairlines.   |
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Your coin looks like a later stage of the 56D-BA98, listed on page 56 in the 1969 edition of "THE CLASSIFICATION AND VALUE OF ERRORS ON THE Lincoln Cent" by Jean Cohen. The illustration in the book has no markers with a comment "Diecrack joins B to E and extends from B to the rim". In the illustration the die crack stops at the base of the E. The OP's image shows the die crack stopping above the Y. The area from the bottom of the B to the rim looks like a lamination to me also, as Coop said "it looks like a lamination issue". But Jean notes a die crack from the bottom of the E to rim. I don't think we can call it a lamination if it's found on a second coin in the same location. But it could be a die crack the just happens to be in a area with a lamination issue. If I ever get to Florida and look at her collection I'll see if I can find and image it. The coin is not listed in the BIE Handbook. Edited by JC Stevens
03/10/2019 12:26 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Isn't that a die crack from the rim to the B E, which may have caused a die chip at the B E ?
Dan
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JC, thank you very much! This one sure puzzled me. I appreciate your time and connecting me to the attribution, and your scholarship in the field.
It was quite the fun find in pocket change.
Thank you all for the input. It's nice to be able to tap into collective wisdom on life's numismatic head-scratchers.
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Posted 03/09/2019 3:47 pm
