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Lew New Member United States 3 Posts	Posted 08/14/2008 02:04 am Have a couple of coins that my limited knowledge doesn't know quite what to make of. First off, a suspicious Indian cent from 1863 featuring a die break on the reverse. The fields are rough and gravely, which triggers a worry about it being a fake. Hopefully, I'm panicking too soon, but I've been caught out more than once. Also, if the coin is genuine, is the die break a good thing for collector interest - or a bad? Second is a 1904 Morgan with a couple of question marks dancing over it. The first is the shiny "shadow" under the date and two of the stars near the date. The coin as a whole is toned golden yellow with green tints, but the shadows are shiny silver. What might have caused this? Second question is what the approximate grade of the coin is (if possible to tell from the photos). First time on these forums; if these images could be better presented, do please let me know. Report this Post to the Staff

Conder101 Bedrock of the Community United States 17884 Posts	Posted 08/14/2008 11:50 am I don't think the Indian is a fake, just porous. As for the Morgan, shiny shadow areas like that around the peripheral lettering is not unusual. I'm not sure why it happens but for some reason the "stretching" of the metal as it comes out or past the letters sometimes changes its susceptibility to toning. Report this Post to the Staff
Bryan1315 Bedrock of the Community United States 14454 Posts	Posted 08/14/2008 12:01 pm I agree with condor, even though I am not a Indian cent collector I have seen quite a few and nothing on your coin jumps out at me that says fake. About the white areas of the Morgan, I also agree with Condor on that one too. When the metal is struck it stretches the metal and makes the areas around that stretched metal harder and kind of changes the composition of the metal which makes it harder to tone, it isn't impossible to tone but it can deter toning like yours shows some times. One way to explain what striking does to the coins is like how people use Nic-A-Date to bring the dates up on Buffalo nickels, the acid eats away at the weaker metal and when that happens the harder metal that was stretched (in this case where the date is) raises up allowing you to see the data again Report this Post to the Staff
Lew New Member United States 3 Posts	Posted 08/16/2008 3:48 pm Thank you for your help, Conder101 and Bryan1315. The one question I have left is about the die break. Does one like that on the penny make the coin more or less collectable? Is it considered a flaw or an attraction? Report this Post to the Staff
foundinrolls Pillar of the Community United States 3507 Posts	Posted 08/16/2008 9:51 pm Hi, The question about the cent is one of those, "six of one, half a dozen" of a nother types of things. An error collector might view it as mildly attractive. A collector of Indian Head cents, looking for a problem free coin might view it as a distraction. Thanks, Bill Report this Post to the Staff
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