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Valued Member
United States
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   The pictures dont do the coin any justice on color also it's still in the case so it's blurry too. On the obverse is this the clad layer coming off? Is the top layer coming off? It is a silver color. Or is this a type of toning happening? Also would that be concidered a mint error since it's still sealed in the proof set case? There is a spot on the reverse in the center of the memorial where it looks like toning has begun. In the pic it looks silver, but from the naked eye it has that bluish color. Reminds me of the colors in oil when mixed with water. Input is a learning tool and stepping stone into the world of coin collecting. Any and all are welcome to give prospective. Thanks in advance, Pam
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Keep in mind the early 1980's zincolns had an issue with plating over zinc dust. (Zinc cents don't laminate. Some times plating peel happens on damaged areas) So they look lumpy, The reverse side is nice though. I'm not much of a fan of the frosted proof cents. I like the looks of the 1960's Proof cents. If I buy a lot of proof cents, they are usually those years.
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03/23/2019 2:19 pm
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I'm trying to get all the mint sets of and s. Silver I've even seen the platinum ones out there. I know there not the most valuable. It's sort of like getting the whole series of a comic or encyclopedias. Pokemon even gotta gave them all. I dont have enough knowledge from a visual standpoint to not get taken advantage of. I look like a big lollipop with a neon sign with the word sucker and arrow pointing at me.So I dont want to spend what I set aside for coins to be waisted. If anything I can put books together with them. The sets I would love to have are the 40's and 50's. They are a little out of my price rang from what I see they go for.
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United States
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Thank you letting me know that they did different top coating. The powder, the laination I didnt know that. I only knew that they went from copper to sink and there was a top layer to make the appearance seem the same as the copper vents. I will read up on this. Thanks again.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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An altered surface is what a true collector doesn't want. They were altered, so they are spendable. HSN pretty much hits the rubes with all that plated crap. It took me just one order to stop ordering mint sets from current years. You get better coins in circulation most times. But I will buy mint set coins in bulk of older years to be able to pick the better ones.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Also, the obverse die was polished down. See how "LIBERTY" is thin?
Errers and Varietys.
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United States
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Yes, I do see it now. That right there is why I am so afraid to purchase expensive coins. That and I would have to know enough about the coin year and mint to get one that will bare a worthy return in the future. Honest question here, where , In general,how and who would be able to alter the coins if they are sealed in the proof cases?
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United States
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In bulk or a whole decade is how I've been buying them. I have le 15- 1990's and 71's. 2 0r 3 of each in the early 80's. Most time all of a decade for under$20.00 and a decade run around $15.00. Even if they are only worth say 3 to 5 bucks a piece I'm doing ok.
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United States
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Sorry- 20 dollars for a lot of a single year 15 for a run. Distractions outside the forum caused a brain fart. Lol Not to be crass or anything.
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United States
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I'm trying to become a real collector with certain types of coins. I know they aren't as valuable as other coins , but the Peace dollars just have something about them that I just desire. To me within a real collector there has to be that sense that sometimes it's not about the money. It's the love of the item. Now those I am very selective on. I only have 3 NC I want them to be about as perfect as you can get to perfection. I have one that has beautiful toning. It's probably my favorite. I also have a 23 that I really thought was a 28. That was a day of false excitement lol |
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@PamV, you sound keen to learn, so just take your time, read the forum a lot and ask more questions. Don't be in a rush to buy coins if are not confident in your ability to detect quality/ good value. Especially with modern coins, there will always be quite a lot around. I am glad that you like Peace dollars. Many do not like them very much. |
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United States
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Thank you. I am he double hockey sticks on learning as much as much brain allows. I'm trying . I'm not in too big of a hurry to buy expensive coins. I see them out there and tempted I am, but also a penny pincher and my confidence isn't where it needs to be, YET! I will get there. Again thank you and you as well Coop. I have to say you're a rock star to me sir.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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When I first started collecting everything, turned more to the cent varieties. First RPMs and the doubled dies. Started selling off what I no longer needed years ago and still have a lot to sell off. But became a cent specialist. So I was were you were. I didn't buy the expensive coin either. I just don't have that deep of pockets. I started when I was in the stone age and took time off to raised kids, and now winding down in collecting. Time to sell.
Oh, just realized about a question you asked about the tampering with coins. Coins stored in heat can affect them even in the mint wrapping. The cellos they are in can turn coins toning them. I think that is what I see on your 1983-S. (Besides the plated over zinc dust)
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03/23/2019 8:15 pm
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United States
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I didnt want to ask about it just in case you thought that question was rediculous. Lol I was worried there were people who do open and reseal some special way. I did read on this forum somewhere that at the mint they are closed and the little holes are filled to seal it and shows if tampered with.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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More of a checkerboard pattern of sealing the outside edges of each area of the denominations. Sometimes the coins get damaged by the sealer, damaging the coins. I'll post images tomorrow.
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Thank you, for all of this.
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