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How To Verify A Collection Of 37 Chinese Coins Dated 1901-1934

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 Posted 03/28/2019  10:59 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add VGRX to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This is a collection of 37 coins.

I'm new to Chinese coins. Some are marked with dates which helps. However, prices are all over the board. There must be a ton of fakes out there. So where do I start?

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Start by knowing or finding out your first coin is not genuine.
Don't over-expect and be ready for high expectations but disappointment.
You can sort the coins with a magnet, but I have a few of the same coin as yours that you posted. One grabs a magnet and the other does not.
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I'm fairly sure this is a forgery. This example doesn't look right in many ways.

The coin in question is an extremely rare L Giorgi Pattern and would be worth in the tens of thousands in the given condition.

Here is an original sample that recently hammered for $160K


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The prices are all over the board because there are many variety collectors that assign high value to certain varieties. To the layman collector (myself included) all these coins look the same, but they are not.
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Thanks guys. You were right. That first coin was magnetic.

This coin is not magnetic.


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Also doesn't look right - the dentils are horrible. I'm guessing if it's not magnetic it will weigh much less then it is supposed to.
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the tell tale sign for this fake is the detailing of the wear and the leaves, if you know about coin noodle and collecting you will understand fake wear. obviously you don't want to be throwing away valuable coins so do try weigh them.

Agree with above they look off even under a 2x2. Sadly to much of this stuff from China.
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A close look will reveal the characters behind the head are part of the mold or part of a die instead of being punched.
It is likely it weighs too low such as about 20g instead of 26g (underweight similar to your first posted coin).
It may or may not jump to grab a magnet.
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Did you pay $2500 and $600 for those coins?
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Chances are that the rest are not genuine.
My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseries
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unless you know what your doing, avoid raw Chinese coins. A good majority are fake and the Chinese are even making fake ones using silver.
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Thanks for the help everyone.

You can't quote people on this forum huh?

@silverai - No I did not buy them for any price. I own a small buy and sell store and a friend of a friend asked me to look into these coins for her. She owns property and found them in the wall. Perhaps the previous owner scammed or tried to scam someone and then hid them? Anyway I gave them all back along with a link to the information posted here.
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You can't quote people on this forum huh?
Yes, you can. Just use the "insert quote" icon when composing a reply (not quick reply).
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