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1909 VDB Matte Proof Wheat Cent Yes / No ?

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I Have had this coin for sometime and not sure if it's a 1909 VDB Matte PROFF. It is a very clean struck crisp coin flat rim that drops straight down in to the coin very clean struck letters and bold if not is a Darn FINE 1909 VDB Cent lol. Sorry about all the pic's wanted you all the see most of the coin to see.
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 Posted 03/31/2019  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add levelsofmadnes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello Daves Errors.
The more pics the better I say.
Die marker scratch inside the "C" in cent looks like one of them.
Find the rest of these die markers (list from COINTALK) and you are in there. Don't leave us out in the cold..post some pics for us to feast on
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 Posted 03/31/2019  11:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Daves Errors to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It has a couple die markers but not many. Could it have been a early strike and not have all the markers? Die's Change after use.!
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 Posted 04/01/2019  12:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add acloco to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Picture of the edge/rim would be helpful as well.
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 Posted 04/01/2019  01:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Daves Errors to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A couple Rim pic's
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 Posted 04/01/2019  08:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beautiful coin either way. This fat rim look is often seen on non-proof issues of this year.
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Wow. She's a beauty.

I don't know enough to confirm if it's a matte proof but it does have some of the markers.
Check out my counterstamped Lincoln Cent collection:
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I think it is a circ strike coin made with proof dies. This was often done.
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As mentioned, it is a very attractive coin, however I don't think it is a Proof Strike looking at the reverse Rim and the overall grainy fields.
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The look of the coin is much better if you could see it with your eyes. My scope has crappy lighting. Chase007 the coin has the grainy field the scope is not showing it well. coinfrog: Yes a very nice coin it will grade well. Thank for every one's help I guess it would be best to just send it in and see what comes back lol Again thanks for everyone's help.
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Well, let us know the results!
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one heck of a coin but the rounded edges on reverse sways me away from a proof .
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That is one nice Lincoln Cent.
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Where is a close up of the initials?
Here is a close up of the matte proof:
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Quite possible a retired proof OBVERSE die was used on your specimen.

I would still send this coin to a TPG for a YES or NO.

Of interest, I have a 09 P, that I thought might be a proof. Unfortunately, did not come back as PR, but UNC CLEANED!!

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Note the strength of the devices on the matte proof? They are very definite. I'm not seeing that on your coin. Note the rims? Don't look at the width of the rim. But note how on your coin they swoop down to the fields. On the matte proof they are almost vertical.
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They are struck twice with very fresh dies.
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