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1983 And 1984 20c Coins

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 Posted 08/24/2008  06:13 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add latman100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Does anyone know if either of these years were actually released into circulation or were they all melted down?
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 Posted 08/24/2008  12:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From what I gathered, a significant amount of them were melted down although there are some forum members here that seem to have them from circulation. I'm not too sure of the reason why as the mintage are quite high - 55.1 and 27.8 million respectively.

That said, I still haven't got a 1971, 83, 84, 85 and the 2004 big head 20 cents.
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 Posted 08/24/2008  3:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maccas 15th page 119. "Whilst many millions of 20 cent coins were minted in 1983 and 1984 almost the entire production was later melted down and exported as base metal cupro-nickel bars when there was no economic demand for them through the Reserve Bank. Only one $200 uncirculated mint roll box for each year has survived to date, making the rolls scarce."
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 Posted 08/24/2008  5:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Which means there were only 1000 of each coin released in circulation... wow.
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 Posted 08/24/2008  7:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add b_j_w_79 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have found about 2 1983's and 1 1984 20c in circulation. It's hard to know if I have missed others as they don't really stand out but I have definitely found some.
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 Posted 08/24/2008  7:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
G'day, it's annoying that the information cited by Nancy from Macca's isn't included in Renniks' 22nd. This just gives the 55m & 27m figures.
1985 is 2.70m.
1986~1992 are mso.
1993 is 1.49m.
So, that's not many 20-cents after 1982, until 1994.
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 Posted 08/25/2008  12:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add latman100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks everyone. I am putting together a couple of circulated sets for my kids and these holes I just can't seem to fill. Think I am going to classify them as MSO if I can't find them in the next couple of months. Not going to buy anything for these sets, and they are pretty much all that remains.
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 Posted 08/25/2008  07:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add justabeginner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe you could articficially put them into your pocket and pass it off as circulated? :D I'm looking for one of those 20 cents too :(
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 Posted 08/25/2008  4:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Peter or anyone else, is the mintage for the 1993 20 cent accurate at 1.49 million? It seems that the RAM didn't declare any was struck at that year but instead, 200,000 was struck in 1988. How bizarre.

Direct link from the mint: http://www.ramint.gov.au/about_ram/...malCoins.pdf

I believe there was an error with the mintage of the 1992 MOR dollar coin as well.
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 Posted 08/25/2008  5:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
G'day, you're up early, GX: still dark here.
I know that the RAM site has a table of coins minted.
I have a copy of Renniks 2007; and a much older Maccas, which I only rarely refer to since I got Renniks.
Where these sources agree, or don't disagree, I'm content.
When they disagreee, I have no idea how to move forward.

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It seems that a lot might hinge on the difference between "coins minted" and "coins issued", as in the case of 1983 & 1984 20-cents: many millions minted; very few issued.
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There were no 1993 20¢ coins struck for circulation. Mintage figures therefore would have to be be for coins in sets, if indeed that figure is accurate. No mintage figures quoted in Maccas & probably no way of knowing where the figure in Renniks came from.

My guess is it's most likely a typo. I can't see that RAM would have produced 1.49m sets in 1993.
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 Posted 09/12/2008  11:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Davidson to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have been looking out for the 20 cents for the years 1983 and 1984 to include in my collection but till now haven't seen or got one.
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 Posted 09/13/2008  06:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Davidson, Welcome to the forum!

If I was really desperate to get hold of 1983 & 1984 20¢, I'd go & buy mint sets for both years. I doubt I'll ever see either of them in circulation.

I actually consider them both to be Mint Sets Only.
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 Posted 09/15/2008  02:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add b_j_w_79 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I finally got a chance to check my collection and I have found 3 1983 20c and 2 1984 20c pieces from circulation. I also have 1 1993 20c but my guess is this is more likely from a mint set broken down and ended up in circulation. I also have 3 1988 20c pieces from circulation.

My best guess is that these came from around $36220 worth of 20c coins searched.
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 Posted 09/15/2008  06:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add muckeye to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Do you want to, or are you willing to, sell any of them?
regards,
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 Posted 09/15/2008  5:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
b_j_w_79, That's very good going, maybe the ones that went in circulation all went to your area.

It's not likely they all came from broken up Mint Sets, Too many. Well done!
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