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1838 Large Cent With PMD Or Cud?

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didn't win this coin but I am unsure if the reverse has a Cud and die crack or PMD? Could not find examples of other coins this year with this. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1838-Coron...43663.l10137
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 Posted 05/14/2019  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bump111 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe this was an attempt at creating a "brothel coin," a popular form of PMD in the mid-1800s.
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 Posted 05/14/2019  6:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Please explain this term vis-a-vis this coin.
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Nice try - I don't want to get in trouble with the bad word filter...
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wrong coin you are referring to. Posted pics of the coin I was talking about. The area by UNITED on reverse.
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Could be a Cud and a die crack...can you get closer pics?

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 Posted 05/14/2019  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nope. Just Post Strike Damage ( PSD)
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Not a crack or Cud, and I don't think it is PSD either. Looks like a folded over lamination. The lump is clearly where the metal has been folded back over (same shape and the depressed area) but it isn't damage from where something hit it because the denticals in the recessed area are not damaged but do show the weakness commonly seen from being struck through a layer of metal that is no longer there. As is typically see where a lamination has peeled off or a clad layer missing post strike on a modern clad coin.
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Thanks Conder
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I do not think this is PMD...I do see the strike of the UNITE"D" over the line/fold...meaning the fold was there first.

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Good point Kopper Ken!
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