2004 D DDO Peace Nickel? W/Photos! Hopefully New Find!

Welcome aboard Bison, waiting impatiently for pictures. Without pictures it's like trying to pick dust out of the air.

It's possible...but keep in mind that Die Deterioration Doubling will look the same on each coin struck with the same worn dies. The markers would also be the same.

Hopefully this is a Doubled Die . I am looking forward to the pictures.

Thanks,
Bill

DITTO!

The pictures are blurry, but it looks to me like Machine Doubling or die deteriation. But believe me, I am not an expert, I have thought many times I have one, and am told everytime the same thing.

Bill, I think we should wait for C. D., but I used the 2004 P peace nickel pictures from coneca as a reference, they are somewhat similar, except the lines inside the devices in my pictures are more easy to be seen. Thanks for the reply though, but I'm not giving up just yet. And also, isn't die deteriation when the devices are outlined with worn dies? But on this coin they are inside, I also used Ken Potter's reference to different forms of doubling. Again, I am young to collecting and I don't think I am right, because you are an expert, but I will stick to my opinion..

-Alan

Hi Alan,

I think that I am safe with what I posted so far. I can't tell from these pictures.

Die Deterioration Doubling takes on many forms depending upon the state of a die. It depends upon the metal being struck. Even the positions of the details on the coins matters. Die Deterioration Doubling can look different on various design elements even on the same coin.

Details like the date on your nickel when struck by a worn die can look very much like the ones on your coin.

To say whether or not a coin is a doubled die or not based upon these pictures reminds me of a class I taught many years ago to people who worked as aids to people with visual impairments.

One of the things was to take a pair of weak prescription glasses and coat the lenses with Vaseline. Putting on those glasses and using those lenses reminds me of these pictures. The pictures are the issue more than the coin right now.

I also don't mind being wrong when I am, so don't worry about that :-)

I am embarrassed to say that many years ago, (more than 20) I put together a neat little booklet that I sent around to dealers to show them what doubled dies looked like on Eisenhower dollars. I was on the right track as what I did got people looking. I ultimately discovered many doubled dies on Ikes and so did a lot of other people. The point is, that the pictures I included in the booklet were of doubling caused by either Die Deterioration or Machine Doubling damage.

That booklet was part of my learning curve a long time ago and I have become fairly expert at seeing what is and what isn't on most coins even if the pictures are not perfect. In this case, I just have to withhold any judgement until I can see something more clearly.

Of course, you can think that your coin is a doubled die, it may even be one. On the other hand it may also be another form of doubling that has no value. I am extremely familiar with all the pictures on Ken's site as far as forms of doubling.

I just can't tell what you have because of the lack of detail in the pictures.

Thanks,
Bill