1858 Large Letter Flying Eagle

Hi Chrsb,
I think I see enough detail loss to rule out an original MS grade; I'd call it AU-58 in terms of wear. At a guess I'd think ANACS would "net" it down to EF-40 or EF-45 at best. The hairlines on both sides are quite obvious.

For the record, I bought a raw MS 1857 flyer years ago that was net-graded to AU-55 by ANACS. That coin I believe was a true MS and had no hairline scratches, but had apparently been dipped which gave it an odd color. I sold it on Teletrade where it fetched $240. Your coin is more seriously impaired so the net grading should be more severe.

I really don't see the detail loss. Maybe I'm not looking closely enough. Ms-60 details.

i like it any way cleaned or not still beautiful

I'll just offer a comparison to my slabbed FE cents.
Judging by the critical details on the eagle, I think this would at least qualify for AU58--originally. Pretty good strike.
However, it's been harshly cleaned (whizzed/scrubbed) as to obliterate the detail needed to accurately grade.
The hairlines and bleached look are a dead giveaway--the mint surfaces are gone.
I don't see a special variety here, so the value is knocked down significantly--VF prices at best.