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I found a slabbed 1900-O Morgan dollar graded MS-62 by "Hallmark Grading servce" with a bar code & green edged border. It was given to me over 15 years ago. Upon closer inspection it seems there is a little "smudge" spot directly over the "O" in "dollar" at precisely the spot where a carson city "CC" would be placed. Could this be one of the 1900-O/CC overstrike morgans? I have Bowers Morgan dollar book, but I can't tell from his photos. Can any one post a pic of a real 1900-O/CC morgan, or give me link to a sight that shows one? I don't have a digital camera, so I can not post pics. Thanks, Bill |
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Mine looks like the "O" is placed directly over the "Carson C" & the smudge spot is where the "City C" would be. Did any of the real ones have the "O" placed in that spot, or were they all put between where the 2 "C"s were placed?
Thanks, Bill.
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I posted a circulated specimen of an O/CC dollar here a couple weeks ago, you should be able to see the two small spikes on the right side of the O even on worn coins. The other areas are harder to see when the coins get more worn, check it out and compare them. https://goccf.com/t/34039 |
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To say we need pics , I have a O/cc as well and the cc is dominate so really it would be cc/o but yeah it can be in an unusual spot slighty off or right on target
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I think you are mistaken where the O is supposed to be, you say you think it has the "O" in "DOLLAR" over the CC, thats not where the "CC" would be located at, it would be located where the MM is at not as far down as you are thinking. If you could possibly get some pictures we may be able to tell you for sure what you have. If I have misunderstood what you were saying I apologize but we would still really need pictures to be able to tell you if it were a O/CC variety for sure or not
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Thanks to all here. I will try to get hold of a camera to post pics. My morgan does not really look like those shown on the VAM site. To try to explain again, the "O" mintmark is placed over & between the "D" & the "O" in "DOLLAR" at the usual mintmark location where the first "C" (the "Carson C") is normally located & the smudge spot is to the right of the existing the "O" mintmark where the second "C" (the "City C") would normally be located if it were marked as a "CC". Does that make any sense? Thanks, Bill |
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Are there two different reverse dies for this overmintmark? I thought there was only one but the pictures in this thread clearly show two reverse dies. And both of them show the O mintmark strattling both C's.
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Well it could be quite possible but from what my coin shop told me is its quite a possiblity that the mint in the process of using the die realized it wasn't filed down far enough or something it is a real morgan but idk
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Curio Bill, Your description seems to fit the 1900 O/CC VAM 9, ( Center shifted Right) where the O is over the first C of CC. VAM 7-12 are O/CC . On the obverse, is the 900 doubled on top inside of upper loop? If so, then VAM 9 is most probable. Jim |
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Hi Curio Bill, Since my last posting, I have been re-reading your description and I think I was hasty in my thinking. I concentrated more on your second posting than the first and thought it was listed as an O/CC on the label and the VAM was in question. So I will retreat from my position until somehow a photo might show up as I guess no one is sure yet it is a O/CC or just an O. It does sound like an interesting coin. Jim |
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Thanks again to all the posters here. Desertgem, It is labeled as a 1900-O, but it is a late 80's, very early 90's slab from a company I don't recognize. Correct, the "O is over the first C of CC". I still don't have a camera, so I can't post pics, but I plan to take it to the coin show on the 20th in Murfreesboro, TN & may someone there will recognize it. ALSO, to Halfabustisbetter, I am very honored to be the cause of a morgan purchase today!  |
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If it is a HALLMARK slab in the slab more commonly seen for PCI slabs (Rectangular with the corners clipped so the slab is actually eight sided.) Then it is a GOOD company that tended to do a good job with their grading. HALLMARK was owned, in partnership, by Q David Bowers and they make a strong effort to make sure the grading was accurate. It was active from 1988 to 1991. Then it closed down and all its slabs and supplies were sold through and intermediary dealer to PCI. PCI then abandoned the Photoslabs they had been using and went to the smaller slabs. About two years ago a small "self slabber" began operation as Hallmark Coin Grading Service HCGS using generic shells and sealed with gold labels at the top and bottom. These are a joke and should not be confused with the earlier HALLMARK. (There was also a Hallmark grading service in the late 70's early 80's, but it was strictly a currency grading service.)
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To: Halfabustisbetter. I beleive your coin is a VAM 11. You should be able to confirm by looking on the reverse. There is a common die marker to look for, a threadlike impression on the lower cap above the hair ribbon. If you see that, yours is a VAM 11. |
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How many O/CC dollar reverses are there?
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