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I have a 1891 Dime. I have researched and think it is a Barber dime. But they did not mint till 1892. Any help would be grand. The scans are not the best. But the date is 1891.   Edited by Sap 08/27/2008 08:24 am
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If it is for certain 1891 it is probably fake.
Are you sure it's not 1897? Bigger pics would help.
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I am sure it is 1891. In the scans it is hard to see, but to the eye it is clear. I am in the process of getting better ones. Some one told me earlier that if real it would be a pattern, only 2-3 know. Two being in the Smithsoian. How do I tell if real. Would it be made of silver?
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Bedrock of the Community
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We need a bigger picture, that reverse does not look right 
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Bigger 
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fake - sorry 
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 . Cool conversation piece though. 
swcoin.ecrater.com
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I would look for Barber dime patterns using google, I would not dismiss the possibility, though it is a long shot.
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This very well could be an error coin. They have been found years afterward with many rare errors. I would ask a few well known coin collectors about it and see what they think first. If they think it may actually be real I would send it off to one of the coin grading companies to see what they thing. I would suggest [URL="http://www.ngccoin.com/]NGC[/url]. also here is there address: Numismatic Guaranty Corporation of America P.O. Box 4776 Sarasota, FL 34230 1.800.NGC.COIN toll free 941.360.3990 941.360.2553 fax
Regards, Stan
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Hello everyone, After a little more research I did find out some information stating that Charkes Barber had made some Dime, Quarter and half Dollar coins in 1891. According to the 2008 Red Book, pg 345, only two are known both at the Smithsonian. I would send that to NGC as soon as possible. Worse case it is a fake, if not.... Regards, Stan
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It is definitely a fake. There are only two known specimens of the 1891 pattern and they are both in the Smithsonian. Now there could be a slight chance that a third specimen did leave the mint, but a comparison of the reverse of the coin in question with the real pattern definitely shows that they don't match. First the coin in question and then the real pattern   Easiest place to see the difference is in the shape of the right hand loop of the bow tying the wreath, the shape of the ara of the field between that bow and the leaves to their immediate right and the fact that the coin in question has a leaf coming from the wreath to the middle of the E in ONE. The genuine pattern does not have such a leaf. There are several other differences as well but those should be enough to prove it a fake. Actually pretty much the entire right hand side of the wreath is wrong. (It can't be an altered later date because the pattern and the regular issues have the same reverse, and does the Seated dime from 1860 on.) Don't waste your money sending off to one of the grading services. Or if you WANT to throw your money away, keep the coin, send me the thirty dollars and I'll be happy to tell you again that it's a fake. :)
Edited by Conder101 09/03/2008 11:44 am
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 You can speculate all you want as to it being a "pattern" or "error", but that does not get around the simple fact that the design is wrong. There is still a slight possibility that it could be a contemporary counterfeit but no one will be able to tell from those pictures and a grading service will not tell you either- they will just deem it to be non-authentic with nothing more said(and take your money in the process).
Edited by biokemist6 09/03/2008 12:20 pm
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 but I  with Conder101 and biokemist6 - It's a fake. But I do disagree with Conder101 - Send me the money, but I will unhappily tell you its a fake.
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It doesn't look right to me either. Send it to me and I'll only charge $29 to call it a fake !  Sorry... couldn't resist.
Edited by 1sikevo 09/03/2008 1:42 pm
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ManNSmkyRoom...... Quote: I have a 1891 Dime. Sorry for the bad conclusion to the fake dime.......   Condor has certainly given you some expert advice...... But .....  .......to CCF !!....  Do you have any other coins that you have question on ? Hope to see ya on the boards again soon !..... 
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have you weighed it? If the weight is correct, maybe it is at least made of silver and not completely worthless.
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