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1874 S Trade Dollar, Authentic? Or Fake?

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Please let me know your thoughts on if this is authentic or if it is a fake? I am not looking for if it has been cleaned or not just if real? The weight is correct at 27.15g. If you think it is a fake then please let me know why you think it is a fake, I am trying to learn more about Trade dollars.

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 Posted 07/02/2019  12:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It has such a horrible look to it, I think it is a crude fake.
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I think real, just horribly abused.
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with Conder
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looks good.
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Jimbucks, is there something specific that makes you believe it is a fake? I have seen many horrible looking REAL coins. The coin in the pictures is in a 2x2 holder and the pictures are hard to take to show the surfaces.
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Are these pictures any better?

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The biggest concern that I have on the coins is the denticles above "OF AMERICA". If the denticles look like little tooth picks in hand, I am in the counterfeit camp. I can understand why some members are calling the coin genuine and abused.
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Does this help?
I also did a two picture overlay with a real 1874 Trade dollar and everything lined up perfectly.

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Come on. That thing is so fake I'm really surprised it could fool anyone with some TD familiarity.
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Just for comparison's sake, look at this 1874-S.

On the obverse, compare the fingers on the left hand, toes, ribbon, and stars. On the reverse, compare the denticles and detail on EPU, the eagle's legs, and sharpness of lettering.

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Oops guess I was wrong, still got a long way to go
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@GrapeCollects, sit tight. There's a punch line.
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Yes new pictures are better and are now causing me to doubt it because of the dentals at 8:00 on the obverse.
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Let me throw this into the mix, here is an image from PCGS.

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