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darcyrmt Valued Member Canada 202 Posts	Posted 07/04/2019 01:50 am Just got a digital microscope, not the best but for $20, oh well. Unfortunately I think it was good enough to let me know what I thought was Obv2, is actually Obv3 ? Going by the lips and forehead, not the hair. So, how's the grade? Thank you! Edited by darcyrmt 07/04/2019 02:31 am Report this Post to the Staff

okiecoiner Pillar of the Community Canada 5589 Posts	Posted 07/04/2019 04:16 am I actually go by the space between the laurel leaf and the "I" of DEI. An Obv 3 touches(or almost touches) the "I". On an Obv 2, there is a definite gap there. It looks to have been cleaned at some time and the Obv photo isn't real clear. I'd say at least a 35, but don't know if it'll reach a 40. Report this Post to the Staff
mdpmedia Pillar of the Community United States 3546 Posts	Posted 07/04/2019 05:03 am Where is the best site to visit to learn the type of variety detail you are discussing for this coin? Report this Post to the Staff
Talonbat Valued Member Canada 395 Posts	Posted 07/04/2019 10:44 am I'd give it a VF-30, it has been dipped at some point for sure but probably market acceptable for most given the modest value and grade. Between obv 2 and 3 I will usually go to the forehead first as it's always present even on lowgrade coins. Report this Post to the Staff
fortcollins Pillar of the Community United States 3660 Posts	Posted 07/04/2019 11:44 am I'm with @okiecoiner on markers and grade. Your coin is a solid VF-35 and on the bubble for EF-40. I don't know of a good online resource for the Obverse 2 and Obverse 3 markers. The Saskatoon Coin Club has Jim MacKenzie's wonderful marker photographs for many varieties, but not (yet) for the 1880-H five cent. Report this Post to the Staff
Alan Pillar of the Community Canada 1463 Posts	Posted 07/04/2019 2:31 pm Vf 30 imo Edited by Alan 07/04/2019 2:32 pm Report this Post to the Staff
okiecoiner Pillar of the Community Canada 5589 Posts	Posted 07/04/2019 3:08 pm Again, for the best marker, look at the gap between the laurel leaf on the Queen and the I in DEI .. it's never wrong. Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 07/04/2019 3:13 pm Agree VF-30, likely old cleaning. Report this Post to the Staff
SHAFTA9a Bedrock of the Community Canada 10743 Posts	Posted 07/04/2019 4:48 pm Lightly cleaned some time ago, like your microscope, may reach EF Report this Post to the Staff
darcyrmt Valued Member Canada 202 Posts	Posted 07/04/2019 5:06 pm Re: my photos, the full coin shots are just with my phone, the close up is with the microscope. Couldn't get full coin shots with it, it was too finicky with the different depths within the field.. Thanks for the info and grades, I'm unsure about the leaf coming close to the I in "DEI".. below are photos from the Saskatoon Coin Club's site, Obv2 is the grey one, Obv3 is sort of sepia toned... getting these pics close to the same size, I have a tough time with a difference in the leaf-letter I gap. In fact, I'm more drawn to a huge difference in denticle size instead! (Has that ever been mentioned as an identification marker?) Report this Post to the Staff
DBM Pillar of the Community Canada 9865 Posts	Posted 07/05/2019 10:10 pm VF30 The forehead is the best marker. Look no further. Clearly evident in the pics above. Well rounded forehead....OBV2 Sloped forehead ....OBV3 "Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website Edited by DBM 07/05/2019 10:15 pm Report this Post to the Staff
mdpmedia Pillar of the Community United States 3546 Posts	Posted 07/06/2019 01:50 am Quote: "Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website BUT overdipping can lead to a details grade. I only mention this not to hijack this thread but to clarify a statement I saw on this thread. IMO Report this Post to the Staff
Kopper Ken Pillar of the Community United States 3402 Posts	Posted 07/06/2019 1:09 pm I would go VF35. KK Report this Post to the Staff
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