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1909 VDB LWC From PCGS With "Details" Grade. What's Damaged?

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Anyone know of a way to find out what was wrong with a coin that wouldn't grade at PCGS? It was slabbed as Uncirculated Details. Coin 2423.98 Cert 37252554. It shows as damaged tooled on the paperwork. I would like to know what they saw to give it the .98.

Anyone see something in the photos below?

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Anything on the edge? Got me?
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Looks like Lincoln has had some work done in front of his neck between his chin and bow tie.
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Coop! You're really starting to scare me. I DO see an area on the edge that looks a little strange, almost as if it has been slightly sanded. Great call!


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Looks like Lincoln has had some work done in front of his neck between his chin and bow tie.


That area has a small line, but I think it's a clash mark. The overlay for a Wheat cent is exact. It would be from the N in CENT.

Both are great answers, I didn't see the die clash or the possible edge damage before. Thanks!
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The uneven toning is the only thing I see that might've raised a flag with them. Stands out more so on the reverse image. Thanks, Doug.
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Could we see a pic of that edge area?
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say the V.D.B. is off .
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Edge of bust where design elements meet the field appears to have been strengthened. Particularly on the right facing edge.
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Could we see a pic of that edge area?


It'll be hard in the slab, but I'll give it a try.
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This thread is getting exciting .What will the true culprit be ?
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"It'll be hard in the slab..." - Doh.
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