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1983 LMC - Interior Die Break? Need Some Help . . .

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My first thought was it was a scratch because of how straight it appears and how it appears to fade from larger at the top of the head to shallower at the bottom.

But there's no sign of metal displacement out of the area so I thought perhaps a stain as the top of the head looks darker than the bottom.

After an acetone bath and closer examination, I think the metal is raised like a die crack.

I've tried to take some of the photos in lower light to eliminate the glare and the last few are taken with the coin at about a 45 degree angle so as to show the raised nature of the line.

It appears to go all the way to the bottom of the bust, but not beyond to the rim or past the top of the head.

Cuds on Coins doesn't have any similar examples from 1983.

Any thoughts?


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Looks like a legitimate error to me. Others will confirm. I like it though!

Die break? Yea, I think so.
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Looks like plating bubbles. IMO not worth keeping.

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@HGK3, can you please try to depress this linear region with a wooden toothpick? I'm in the linear plating bubble group until proven otherwise.
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Same here.
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What is going on between "We_Trust" area? Sometimes you need to see other clues to understand what is going on.
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Just a common Linear Plating Bubble. Not a Die Break. Toss it.
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I steer clear from newer zincs (unless I'm looking for the more famous double dies or WAMs), that explains my inexperience. I retract my comment.
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There's no discernible movement under magnification when pressing any part of the "line" with a toothpick and the area in between WE & TRUST is clean and clear.




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My thinking..maybe a non-seeable plating issue, then zinc rot entered under the copper plating around hairline (near D in GOD) and traveled downward..Just IMO..also with the way the cent looks, I'd just spend and forget about it..but that's me...good luck on future finds..
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Wow. From the first image it looked like something was going on in that area. It is hard to tell yet from the images what is going on. The images seem to far away or too close. But I'm not seeing a die crack, the center of the affected area would be more raised. Some area seem raised and some a bit incuse with the central areas raised, just slightly. I'm going to try editing images later today to see if I can put some of these images together to make an in between look to see if that helps. So hold on to the coin for now. Always nice to know before you throw it back into circulation. It maybe a planchet issue, or something else. But adding this comment helped me to know what to try next to see what is going on.
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The only thing I've seen similar to this was a damaged planchet cent once on the reverse of a shield cent:
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So I feel it happen pre-strike on this OPs coin.
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07/26/2019 2:43 pm
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