1909 P Lincoln Wheat Cent / LWC Doubled Die Obverse / DDO -001 FS-1101 The Gift That Keeps On Giving.

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Jim0815 Pillar of the Community United States 5239 Posts	Posted 07/26/2019 2:38 pm I was gifted this 1909 P LWC DDO-001 FS-1101 and I think this is an extremely early Die state. What makes me think this is not the stage B there shows a die crack on the reverse at about 10 o'clock near the left wheat ear on VV's site, this cent does not have it. It is not a stage C as you can see the doubling underneath the B and E in LIBERTY on VV's stage C you can see no doubling under the B and E. It is not the stage D as no die crack through E in the word WE on the obverse. Thoughts? Edited by Jim0815 07/26/2019 2:47 pm Report this Post to the Staff

coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 07/26/2019 2:48 pm I would like to see the top of the devices motto area. The VDB dies were pulled due to public reaction early. But I don't feel this is an EDS die. Maybe a bit later on. Report this Post to the Staff
Jim0815 Pillar of the Community United States 5239 Posts	Posted 07/26/2019 3:02 pm Here you go @coop. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 07/26/2019 3:40 pm Looks like a MDS. Note the obverse die scratches on your coin, the MDS die state often has these on them, and yours are fading. But that can not always be true. Sometimes a clash happens and dies need another polishing before that die state. Report this Post to the Staff
Jim0815 Pillar of the Community United States 5239 Posts	Posted 07/26/2019 4:10 pm It must be the stage B without the die crack on the reverse. Edited by Jim0815 07/26/2019 4:13 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 07/26/2019 5:06 pm Nice example and great photography. Report this Post to the Staff
Jim0815 Pillar of the Community United States 5239 Posts	Posted 07/26/2019 5:08 pm Thank you Coinfrog! Report this Post to the Staff
Petespockets55 Pillar of the Community United States 5775 Posts	Posted 07/26/2019 6:06 pm Nice find and extremely helpful series of images Coop. Thank you! Let's us see the Die Deterioration as it progresses in an older die. Took me years and years to realize this info you so accurately portray. Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups. We need to consume them regularly to thrive and grow. Report this Post to the Staff
Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 74278 Posts	Posted 07/26/2019 6:20 pm Very nice gift Jim! I have always wanted one of these. Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
tropicalbats Pillar of the Community United States 6110 Posts	Posted 07/26/2019 7:32 pm I was thinking that one Coinman just sold a few minutes ago on ebay was pretty darn early die stage. Went below book at $112 but not cheap either. https://www.ebay.com/itm/UNCIRCULAT...047675.l2557 Report this Post to the Staff
Jim0815 Pillar of the Community United States 5239 Posts	Posted 07/26/2019 7:42 pm tropicalbats, that one was pretty dang clean. I couldn't see anything other than the obverse but looks like stage C Report this Post to the Staff
Jim0815 Pillar of the Community United States 5239 Posts	Posted 07/26/2019 8:07 pm I am even more intrigued by this cent. The stage B on VV mentions nothing about doubling on the bottom of the suit jacket. May send this one on to Dr. Wiles. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 07/26/2019 8:13 pm Sometimes while attributing, some areas of the coin get over looked. Especially areas that are not known for hub doubling. We often just look on the devices and the bust common doubling areas. So this may have been present on all examples, just overlooked? Report this Post to the Staff
fioti Pillar of the Community United States 4212 Posts	Posted 07/26/2019 8:21 pm Jim, this is the rev. Report this Post to the Staff
Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 74278 Posts	Posted 07/26/2019 9:23 pm Wow! The bottom of the suit jacket is actually hub doubled! Very cool! I can see why they missed that area. Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
tropicalbats Pillar of the Community United States 6110 Posts	Posted 07/26/2019 9:46 pm Pretty sure I've seen that doubling on most of these when looking for it. Even at stage C it's readily apparent. Report this Post to the Staff
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1909 P LWC DDO-001 FS-1101 The Gift That Keeps On Giving.