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What denomination/date do you find to be the most faked coin?

What classic coin would be one that no one would want to fake?
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These are very vague questions.

To me, US silver dollars of all types are the most commonly counterfeited, Bust to Peace. By date, no idea.

Classic coin that no one would want to fake? How about a common circulated Indian cent?
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@jpsned, yes good first question and of course unanswerable, since no counterfeiters are publishing their mintages.

With that said, you could look through posts here on CCF and tally what coins folks ask most commonly. I have taken the liberty of doing this for just the first page of the US Classic Coin forum:

1652 Oak Tree Shilling
1877 Indian cent
1872 2 Cents
1936 Hobo Buffalo nickel
1900 Lafayette Dollar
1794 Flowing Hair Dollar
1799, 1804 Draped Bust Dollars
1846, 1863, and 1872 Seated Liberty dollars
1874 Trade dollar
1889, 1904, and 1921 Morgan dollars
1921 Peace dollar

Clearly, we are seeing silver dollars of various design more than other denominations or alloys, but I don't have enough data to narrow it down more. Maybe @nss-22 or @bobby could comment on what statistically gets flagged the most on ebay?
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Best fakes mostly classic gold, but really everything has been faked to some extent now
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With regard to Morgans, phonies of the big dollar 1893-S & 1889-CC are very common, but I'd doubt there's any date/mm in that series that hasn't been counterfeited. Flying Eagle cents, early American dollars, and Trade dollars have also been widely faked.

I've perused the catalogs of some of the Chinese purveyors of these cancers to our hobby. They are forging an astonishing range of U.S. & world coinage, some of which are very obscure issues that you'd never expect owing to the thinness of the market for them & the general expertise of those who collect them.

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I think 1804 dollars are probably the most counterfeited American coin in history (really, the entire 1795-1807 run of Heraldic Eagle coinage.)

CC Morgans seem to be more counterfeited than most, excepting the key dates as mentioned by Lucky Cuss above.
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1$, 2 1/2$ and 3$ gold pieces. There are probably more counterfeit ones and threes available than there are real ones.
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For UK coins I'd say the 1847 Gothic crown, 1887 2 and 5 pounds and numerous dates of gold sovereigns (to deceive numismatists or bullion collectors) and most dates of the 1983-2005 nickel-brass pound coins for circulation...
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Best fakes mostly classic gold, but really everything has been faked to some extent now

I highly doubt anyone would want to fake a 1964 Jefferson nickel. My choice for most faked would be the 1916D Mercury dime.
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I highly doubt anyone would want to fake a 1964 Jefferson nickel.
Maybe they would if they faked an error.
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I also doubt anyone would fake a 2017 penny.
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Maybe they would if they faked an error.

Well there ARE fake errors on 1964 cents and nickels made using soft fake dies.
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Well there ARE fake errors on 1964 cents and nickels made using soft fake dies.
A plentiful donor I supposed.
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The Chinese have faked some very common coins that I'd have thought nobody would want to fake - I remember seeing crude cast Charles & Diana crowns on my visit to China way back in 2001... and, on the no-no site, you can even buy a fake 1980 Two Pence coin - a very common coin with a very low face value and high mintage that is still easily obtainable in circulation! Perhaps the forger got the date wrong, or looked at some of the silly listings on ebay...

This is from the Fake Pound Coin Database:
http://www.thefakepoundcoindatabase...EWPENCE.html
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I can't say I have ever seen a fake of this.


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