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1960-Dd Large Date 1c Vp002 MS-65RD Die Rotation Error

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I was re-examining this coin and looked at the reverse a little closer and realized that the Reverse is a Die rotation error!

Not big, like a 90 degree plus die rotation error etc, but decent enough to be noticed.

Since this coin is already 1 of only 3 total POP for NGC-Graded MS65RD as a 1960 D/D Large Date 1 Cent would it be worthwhile having the die-rotation error officially documented also?

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Here are a few pics from the Obverse of the coin again.

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I just love that RPM! Nice coin!
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Thank You Bill!
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chuck, would you mind telling me how much it costs to get coins graded by Ngc? and also which magnification do you prefer on coins?
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The rotation is not enough to warrant having it noted on the label. I don't believe NGC will note it unless it is a significant degree off.
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I contacted NGC, the die rotation must be a minimum of 15 degrees off to be noted on the label.

This one looks like its around 20 degrees.

Can anyone tell from the pics about how many degrees?

I used a protractor etc and keep coming up with 20 degrees, so unless my math is bad,
its worth sending it in for an additional $10.00 designation service fee.

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Really only worth sending in for an additional $10 if it's scarce among the same die...all of them (or most of them) could be that way, just not annotated as such.
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Hi Chuck:

True, but right now the fact is that NGC is only showing 3 that they actually graded VP002 MS65RD, and one of them is this coin which also has a die rotation error on it.

I don't know about all the one's that are sitting in someone's collection at their homes not graded by NGC that COULD have a die rotation error also.

I know this coin does, and as such, its going to be well worth spending the $10.00 to have a double attribution on it. :)


Thanks again to all who responded, appreciate it.

Chuck.

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