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1917 Lincoln Wheat Cent - Recolored?

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Sent this 1917 LWC to ANACS and just got it back as MS60 Recolored. Haven't seen this before. Need answer from the experts. How is a cent recolored?
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 Posted 07/30/2019  3:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your pics have too much intensity and contrast to evaluate properly.
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Ramjethero, here's a thread that might answer your question. http://goccf.com/t/148357
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Once a cent is cleaned, usually with some type of chemical, it is virtually impossible to ever get rid of the "pink" hue. I've seen a lot of different attempts to recolor and I've tried myself - strictly to understand the process - and I've never seen any good result.

Recolor determination from photos only is very nearly impossible. But ANACS knows what they are doing on recolors. You can trust their opinion better than 99% of the time.
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Yea, I know the pictures are not very good. I just included them to show the toning and coloring on the coin. Why wouldn't the grading services show "Cleaned and Recolored"? Been collecting a long time and have not seen any info about recoloring. This has been a very educational event. Wish the coin would have come back with a high MS grade but I have learned a lot from this one.
E&V thanks for that thread it was very informative and everyone should read it.
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Hey Ramjethero, Welcome to my world: http://goccf.com/t/351544

That grade on my coin could cost me a couple grand in value but not sure there's anything what can be done. Other than as one person suggested and that is to crack it out and submit it to a different TPG.

But from what I'm learning the rough order of things is from worst to best: Improper cleaning, recolored, and then questionable coloring. So I think I came out the best of those with questionable coloring as that still leaves open that they didn't actually know and it could be a straight coin. But without the grade the coin goes from a high end registry coin to just a nice coin. I got the same thing on the possible 1916 matte proof I sent in, which is equally disappointing as even if not a proof it would have been nice to have an actual grade on the coin instead of that.

Your coin, to me, looks like many I've seen in albums. Different albums do different things to coins but yours looks like a coin that was stored in something like a DANSCO album in an improper environment like a workshop with gas fumes. Coin gets a ring-shaped toning varying from quite nice to quite horrible. I've currently got a DANSCO from just such a thing although sadly this one is in the horrible category and a lot of good coins were lost. Pretty much everything in that whole collection was toast even the coins in paper rolls that came out with light blue corrosion powder all over them.

Anyway, your coin looks good to me but I'm not a grader.
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Sometimes they are recolored with heat.
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These were toned by dipping them in soapy water and dried with a candle. (I didn't do it, but that was the story the seller told me about)
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Thanks Tropicalbats. You are on the same wave length I am. I thought this coins had been stored in an old album causing the reaction and toning. I have had some coins over the years in the old blue Lincoln Cent albums that colored almost identical to this. Oh well, if this coin was recolored whoever did it is very good. I guess I could be a real sleeze and take it out of the holder and sell it on ebay for several hundred dollars!!
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Or you could try re-coloring it yourself.
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As long as you like the coin, you're fine. Buy the coin, not the holder. All it does is arm you with info.
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