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I'm leaning towards this being a DDO. The T does not appear to have decreased in size, which would make MD unlikely. There are a handful of DDOs from the late 30s- early 50s that have strong spreads that only affect the lettering and design closest to the center (the TY in LIBERTY is the closest lettering to the center). So this being a DDO isn't unprecedented. Although many, but not all, also have doubling on the ear, eyelid, bow tie, and/or the 19 in the date. Can you get pics of those areas to see if there's any other doubling? I also discovered one of these types of DDOs on a 1952 cent last year so there could easily be some more undiscovered ones out there. |
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I'm not sure there isn't some doubling in the ear visible. Interesting one.
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Note the 'I' on LIBERTY. That is from a Gumball Machine. How can I tell? Note the the 'I' is moved parallel to the rim. Machine Doubling on the right side of the devices on Liberty. Possible contact mark on the devices and the back of the head. It been out in circulation for 78 years. Stuff happens. Damage/MD. Still a Wheat cent so toss it into the Wheat pile stash:  |
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The mark to the I is unrelated to the doubling and we said already that the devices aren't affected like MD. Coop can you elaborate?
I would still like to see more pics pound_foolish, like I mentioned before.
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It is a legit DDO, nice find |
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Coop, see the "TY" of LIBERTY, and not the "I". I'll post up some additional photos tonight - juggling 4 kids on a weekend day!
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Note on your coin, the MD is reducing the devices in side. On the doubled dies, note that the devices are enlarged. If they are MD and reduced, it is probably from a normal die. This is caused by the machine. On a doubled die, the devices doubled on the die. A doubled die can have Machine Doubling, but will still show the doubled die, with some area reduced. But the enlargement of the devices will still be seen.It is a DDO. I didn't find anything on the three sites like.  Also note most the wheat cents have this master hub doubling on them through several years. Edited by coop
08/11/2019 2:02 pm
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The 'Y' of Liberty is doubled NE.
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That is just Machine Doubling. Note the device is reduced. besides a doubled die is just not one device. All others in the same area will be affected the same or slightly different depending on what class of doubling it is.Seeing a larger set of images compared with a to normal coins helped me to see what looked like Machine Doubling, was actually raised on the coin. A new DDO, unless Wexler has this one on his files but not on his site. Edited by coop
08/11/2019 2:04 pm
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If viewed edge-on, the doubling is not shelf like.
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Two considerations. First is the overall condition of the coin; wear certainly isn't helping. Second, I may give it an acetone soak to passively remove grime especially around the eyelid.
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Doesn't look like a typical doubled die to me.
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