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1853 Arrows Seated Half You Vs TPG

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Thoughts on grade?


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AU55
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I'll say AU-58.
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Looks AU-58 to me
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I see no wear. MS63 shot at MS64
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From photos, IMO, AU-58
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Minimal rub on the upper leg and breasts, so I'd say AU-58, but I could also see MS-63.
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I'm with the AU-58 group.
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AU-58.
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AU58. nice coin
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Very difficult to see wear under the rather nice patina.
If blast white, the evidence of any wear would have been much easier to detect. For this reason, the presence or absence of small nicks and hairline scratches are also more difficult to prove, either way.

With these pictures, (which are quite OK), and to my eye, this coin is a slider AU55 to MS62.

Would love to examine this coin raw, in hand, with a 10X loupe, just as a TPGrader would do.
We have to contend with:
1. looking through the plastic cover of the slab, which may also have minor surface scratches or nicks and the probable presence of tiny dust particles,
2. make allowance for the patina in the search for hairlines and very minimal wear,
3. our inability to hold the coin at different angles if incident light.
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sel - You've said it well, and we'll forgive you if you're wrong, but what's your bid?
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With these pictures, (which are quite OK), and to my eye, this coin is a slider AU55 to MS62.


That's what it looks like to me. Likely an AU58 that would grade as a MS62. Such pieces can go AU55 with conservative graders.
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MS62. Nice one!
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