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I purchased this Morgan dollar a while back and noticed immediately that it had different surfaces from other Morgan dollars I have had and do currently have. This thing has truly Mirrored fields and Frosty devises. I do not think this is simply a business strike coin that has PL or DMPL traits. The "Mirrored surfaces on this coin are like a sheet of glass on both the obverse and reverse. This coin has not been whizzed nor does it have any fine scratches from being cleaned or whizzed. In some of my research I came across something called a BM Proof coin or "Branch Mint" Proof coin. This is not a common occurrence as I see that in Morgan dollars there are only a few known to exist. The 1879-O $1, BM (Proof) (4 known), the 1883-O $1, BM (Proof) (Est. 5 known) and the 1893-CC $1, BM (Proof) (10-15 known). These are worth an extreme amount of money as you might guess. I have had the coin graded by PCGS, but as you may or may not know they have a habit of not informing you that you may have something special unless you know before hand and ask for a variety or error attribution on your order. As an example of what I mean, a person could send in the most incredible 1955 Wheat cent double die with the largest spread known to man and if that person does not request the variety attribution, PCGS will not inform the costumer or call them and say "Hey Shawn, you know that 1955 Wheat cent you sent in for grading happens to be a double die. Would you like us to attribute it for you?" No, they just grade it, charge the costumer a fee, send it back and go on. I will attach some pictures for your review. I would appreciate your opinions and I am looking for a direction to go in getting this coin recognized. Any direction in this matter would be greatly appreciated. Respectfully, CRCRH       |
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 to CCF.Give it a bit and a member with knowledge on Morgas will help you. John1  |
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I doubt seriously that PCGS would miss a branch mint proof, but we'll need much better pics to really evaluate this one. From what I can see, it's a regular strike. to the CCF! Edited by Coinfrog
08/30/2019 1:31 pm
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Thanks very much! I will check out that VAM World forum. I will post any updates here. |
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If your coin was a 1879 O, 1883 O, 1993 CC, or 1921 S where there are mint records that confirm the production of Branch Proofs with a prooflike strike, square rims, mirror surface, you would have an uphill battle getting the coin in a TPG holder as a Branch Proof. On a date like 1879 S where there are no mint records of a Branch Proof, it is a near impossible regardless of the coins qualities to get the coin into a TPG holder as a Branch Proof. The 1879 S date has some of the best quality prooflike coins in the Morgan series, and your coin is a wonderful example. Your starting point would be to find a numismatic who is an expert in Morgan proofs and a TPG adviser and willing to support your position. I wish you the best. Edited by Slider23
08/30/2019 4:03 pm
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Man...You people are really helpful. I appreciate all of the input and expertise. Looks like I have a lot of browsing and research ahead. Odds are that is is not a BM Proof. I just wanted to make sure. I had never seen a Morgan with a quality strike like this before acquiring this coin. The fields literally look like an actual mirror and are as smooth as glass. Thanks again!
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Very nice coin but most likely not a BMP.
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Quote:.I have had the coin graded by PCGS, but as you may or may not know they have a habit of not informing you that you may have something special unless you know before hand and ask for a variety or error attribution on your order. As an example of what I mean, a person could send in the most incredible 1955 Wheat cent double die with the largest spread known to man and if that person does not request the variety attribution, PCGS will not inform the costumer or call them and say "Hey Shawn, you know that 1955 Wheat cent you sent in for grading happens to be a double die. Would you like us to attribute it for you?" This really isn't accurate at all. The big money things are automatic at PCGS such as the 55 cent in your example, 3 legged buffalo, the top VAMs etc. it's the obscure varieties for the most part that have to be requested. Whether something is a proof, business strike, specimen, branch mint, reverse proof, enhanced etc is ALWAYS automatically done |
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Try more photos without the glare of a flash making it difficult to actually see details. |
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Posted 08/30/2019 12:36 pm
