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Hi. I'm new to this site and looking forward to posting my better detector finds from my home area with its rich colonial history and learning from others as well. In the metal detector forum I recently posted a photo of an 1801 Draped Bust Cent with a unique etching I found. It's actually the second coin of this type I have found. This one I found while working on one of the oldest homes in Springs (East Hampton, NY). I pried up the door tread to work on some plank flooring. I hope to find more of these coppers I really like them.  |
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Now that is odd. Sort of looks like an 1800 over a 1890 but that would make no CENTS.  Or an 1790 with an 1800 over that which would really be odd since none were made in 1790. |
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Edited by Gincoin43
09/03/2019 12:08 am
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There are 11 different overdate varieties for 1800 from 6 different obverse dies. They range from common to extremely rare. Can we get images of both obv and Rev so we can have a chance to determine which one it is.
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to the CCF! |
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Can you post a full pics ,from both sides?
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Your post was moved to the appropriate forum for the proper attention.  |
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Looks like it might be a bit on the crusty side but I sure would like to see the entire coin. Love overdates !
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to the CCF Great find. There are a number of overdates in the large cent series. Looking forward to seeing the full pics ....  |
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to the CCF! Amazing find! I love the large dollars! Especially the overrate varieties. -CH27 Collector of U.S. Coins, Varieties, and Colonial Coinage
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Now that is odd. Sort of looks like an 1800 over a 1890 but that would make no CENTS. Or an 1790 with an 1800 over that which would really be odd since none were made in 1790. Dies were made in batches at the mint and the dates were punched in with individual number punches. Toward the end of the year only the first three digits were punched in and then later the last digit punched in shortly before hardening. This allowed the die to be used in the subsequent year if necessary. At the end of 1798 the mint had at least seven, possibly eight obv dies still on hand, two fully dated 1798 and the rest just 179_. One of the fully dated dies was used in 1799 to make the 1799/8, and one of the 179_ to make the non-overdated 1799 S-189. But 1799 was a low mintage year and at the end of 1799 there were still six of the dies made in 1798 left. rather than dispose of perfectly good dies they were over-punched with 1800 (on the OP coin you can clearly see the serif of the 7 sticking out of the top of the 8.). One of the dies had the full 1798 date and this die was used to create the 1800/1799 S-190, 191, NC-5, and NC-6. The other 5 dies now dated 1800/179 were used to make S-192, 193, 194, 195, 196, and NC-2. The last 8 on the fully overdated dieis faint an usually only visible on high grade coins, but is is eazy to identify because it is the only 1800 that has the type 1 hair bust. Edited by Conder101
09/03/2019 11:24 pm
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While I have the right forum with people knowledgeable about this series, can anyone explain why someone would carve into this cent? I found it a couple of days ago with my detector about 7" deep in East Hampton, NY. Thanks.   |
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@Detectorist ..... Re the 1801, these punch marks appear to be simply PMD as opposed to a meaningful counterstamp. My avatar is, in effect, PMD, but it bears the mark of a gunsmith. The marks on your 1801 suggest to me the possibility that someone may have punch-marked a crude cross, perhaps? The "why" is buried with the maker of these punch marks. Good luck, digging him up! |
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Posted 09/02/2019 11:12 pm
