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The Toughest Canadian 1891 Cent Finds New Home

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According to Rob Turner the 1891 SDSL Obverse 2 cent is the rarest of the six varieties. He told me that he estimates they only struck 33,000 with this combination of dies. I got mine in the mail today.

I had to go through ten years of Heritage sales to find one that they had sold. Plenty of other 1891's but only one like this.

I was concerned that it might not be what was pictured in the auction catalog since PCGS had it mis-labeled LDLL. But as you can see, it is the tough one.

If you have not checked Turner's site on Vicky cents, you should:

https://www.victoriancent.com/


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Congratulations. That is an exceptional example.
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Very impressive indeed.
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Another reason to buy the coin and not the slab:

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Nice coin in that grade, but they really aren't rare, but in that grade, most certainly.... congrats! The SD/SL are somewhat scarce and harder to find above 40. I have 7 ... 2-40's 2-30's, a 20, a 15 and a VG.

The toughest to find (and let Rob know if you find one) is the Obv 3 SD/LL with the large serif T in Gratia and the T in Vicky R/P'd. I have 5 of the SD/SL with that T, but never seen the SD/LL with the T's.

CLARIFICATION: What I put above about a large serif Obv3 SD/LL 1891 was somewhat tongue-in-cheek. As Rob put in "Dies and Diadems", he has "0%" minted for that variety on the "large serif T" Obv page. That's why I said that, if you ever find one, to let Rob know!
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With Obverse 2, they are tough. For the last ten years, not one has changed hands on Heritage Auctions. Several with obverse 3 (a) during that same time period.
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he toughest to find (and let Rob know if you find one) is the Obv 3 SD/LL with the large serif T in Gratia and the T in Vicky R/P'd.
bill is this the obverse you are referring to? although the reverse of this coin is a SD/SL
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gidjit - that looks like a regular Obverse 3a to me. Big serif in the "E"s but a normal "T"
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look closer john the T is the same punched used on the 1871 PEI cent
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here is my regular SD/SL obv3

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and while we are at it here is my SD/SL obv2

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nice coin you have there btw,
if you want you can check out my large cents in the link below ,i havent updated it in a while though. and you dont need a facebook account to view either
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Gidgit and John K .. Yes, that is the large serif T in your first enlargement and, as I said, I have a few of them .. all Obv 2's. A "normal" T has serifs much shorter.

John K ... The large crossbars on the E's are the surest marker for an Obv 3 .. they all have it, except for the 1890's, the 1st year for the Obv 3's. If you see a large crossbar E, it's an Obv 3.

Gidgit .. when are you coming to one of our Hamilton Coin Club meetings (next Monday. B
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Gidgit and John K .. Yes, that is the large serif T in your first enlargement
so we want to find that on the SD/LL?

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Gidgit .. when are you coming to one of our Hamilton Coin Club meetings


ya first I need to remember then I need to get off my lazy arse lol
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Rob put the "0%" in the book because he's almost certain that there were no SD/LL Obv3's minted with the large serif T. Sorry if I confused some of you. B
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I think I may have caused the confusion. Dies and Diadems shows 0% for the obverse 3 die with the PEI "T" paired with a SDLL reverse. That does not mean I found one after the random sample. I have never found one and I am pretty certain there are none.
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I think I see what you are talking about now. I'll have to check the other 91's I have to see if I got lucky.
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