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My new acquisition. Grade?   |
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Wow she is a beauty  Edited by Suomi
09/08/2019 01:53 am
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Yes. I am on a Jefferson research journey here. But still trying to figure out where this beauty falls in terms of type (proof, SMS, standard circulation [doubt that though]). Just so pretty it hurts. lol Lots of conflicting 1964 Jefferson history, and the next three years, 1965 - 1968. Enjoying the journey though. Been stumbling on these finds and just makes me more determined to explore the history. Not bad for $18 (I typo'ed $15 in another post. Need to correct). Will have to grade high I imagine. Can't even rough price based on potential grade because I don't know how to title it (MS, PR, SMS, Fake? maybe, lol, etc.). But as always...we will see. Thx
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09/08/2019 02:13 am
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I believe that does look SMS to me... wow
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Yea. The 'O' in "OF" on reverse, has a thinner bottom portion, exactly like a Heritage Auctions 1964 SMS, that sold for an amount that is scary. I will post the reverse picture of that one here. Anyone can compare. I think mine looks sharper. OK...   Edited by BuyGuns
09/08/2019 02:52 am
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Well....after much comparisons, I am thinking this is just a very nice proof. Still will have graded, but nothing earth shattering I don't think. Would have been nice if it were an SMS. The 'O' I showed above is standard on proofs to. Just thought it was unique to SMS. Anyway...very pretty coin to retain. I'm thinking MS-68 though. Just so pretty. Still don't know what determines a SMS nickel. Is there a feature to look for? Any comments on that? OK... For comparison/informational purposes to my nickel, here is the Obverse of the Heritage SMS nickel. Reverse is above already. Crazy how similar:  Edited by BuyGuns
09/08/2019 05:13 am
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Bedrock of the Community
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Remarkable coin. I'm at a loss for words trying to assign a grade.
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Very nice. Easy PR66 or PR67 but I find the shape of the O a very interesting characteristic I have never known about before today. So I looked at other Jefferson Proofs and they had the same shaped O in OF with the funny looking base of the O you mention. Here's the reverse of my 1955 proof  |
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I hear you coinfrog on the grading deal. One thing is for sure, this is a stunner. I'm just happy to have found it.
The "O" was an interesting observation, but common as I found (answering my own questions. lol). Not sure why it is that way though, other than maybe the engraver wanted to avoid a rim collision once pressed. Actually looking at all letters, a few of them have that same feature as I see it. So the 'ensure separation from rim' theory may hold water. That seems to make most sense I would think. Hmmm Ok....Moving on.
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can't tell from those photos if the fields of your coin are mirrored, which is a distinguishing characteristic of a proof
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I dont' think the graders can really tell the difference between a really nice business strike or a SMS coin of any year, However if the coin is a proof, it should have some level of reflectivity and look like a proof coin, even if it's toned since.
The 64 SMS coins kind of have a satin finish appearance to them, it's clearly not a proof, but clearly not a business strike either, the rims are way to clean and details sharp, and like I said, the coin has a satin or Matte kind of finish to it, but also has Proof characteristics as far as the strike is concerned.
I believe the fields on the ops coin are mirrored to some extent and just toning is muting it some.
Ops coin looks like a toning proof coin to me, not a 1964 SMS which is also represented on this thread.
A really pretty proof coin though!
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I will provide new pics asap. Yes...satin finish is the SMS trademark. The 360 degree videoes of the graded ones on PCGS. but that satin luster. Also polished die striations in the fields of the coin. I also found out they may NOT have a sixth step intentionally. Truth is there is a lot of opinions and thoughts on what really constitutes an SMS, and why and how many remain out there in the world. Other than the Les collector guy story, who knew the Ava treasury lady and she gave him some sets, and then Stacks auctioned, and some got out in the public? Here's the real truth on these...  lol.....But I like a challenge. Will keep at it. Maybe the holy grail will show up.  Sure.... But that nickel I purchased is so pretty, it hurts. Better pictures coming. Thx for input. Edited by BuyGuns
09/10/2019 12:32 am
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This it is a very nice proof coin for the year. Why? because in time San was close, so Phil has to do all's, and they rush. Now, in what it is concern the SMS 64, all Nickels have FS with no exception. From where come the coin come? Curious.
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04/08/2022 10:52 pm
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