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Lucky Cuss Pillar of the Community United States 4883 Posts	Posted 09/10/2019 7:30 pm Apparently undated, my thought being it might be an issue of Francis (Franz) II, but so far I can't find an exact match. 21 mm in diameter, with the weight coming in at just over 3½ grams. Colligo ergo sum Report this Post to the Staff

Spence Moderator United States 34476 Posts	Posted 09/10/2019 9:28 pm Could it be Franz I? Design looks close but the weight is far off. https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces39181.html "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
Lucky Cuss Pillar of the Community United States 4883 Posts	Posted 09/10/2019 10:11 pm Spence - I think you've more or less nailed what it's supposed to be. The reason that the weight is so light is that my specimen at the edge is only about 1 mm thick rather than the 2 mm specified on the Numista webpage you referenced. So maybe mine's a contemporary counterfeit, a forgery of the 1760 no date variety? Colligo ergo sum Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34476 Posts	Posted 09/11/2019 05:07 am Yes could be a contemporary counterfeit. A couple other possibilities would be a coin weight or spiel marke. Someone with more knowledge than I have will need to weigh in I think. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
tdziemia Pillar of the Community United States 7979 Posts	Posted 09/11/2019 07:04 am Quote: I think you've more or less nailed what it's supposed to be. I agree. On another thread, it was mentioned that these AUstrian copper types were changing size appreaciably in the late 1700s to early 1800. The 1/2 kreuzer is at about 5.5 g in the 1760s, 4.5 g in the 1770s, 4 g in the 1780s, and 2 g by 1800. But those are always with type changes. So maybe this was use of the wrong thickness planchet? Report this Post to the Staff
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