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I have 3 to choose from and I'm not sure what I'm looking at a lot of these # go over my head.

1/ HP Elite Deck 800 G1 used
Windows 10 Pro
Intel i5-4570s 2.90GHz
8 GB ram
240 Gb SSD
VGA, Display x2
Gigabit Ethernet, 802.11 Wireless adapter
USB 3.0 x 4 USB 2.0 x4
size about 12"x15"

2/ Lenovo Thinkcenter M93 used
Windows 10 Pro
Intel i7-4765t
16 GB ram DDR3
256 GB SSD
DVD
Gigabit Ethernet
VGA display ports
USB 2.0 2 front - 4 back
size 7"x8"

3/ HP Pavilion new
8th gen. Intel i5+8400
8Gb DDR4 ram
1TB hard drive
AMD Radeon RX 550 graphics card w/2GB memory
Bluetooth 4.2; 3.1 type C
USB 2.0 - 5 USB 3.1 - 4
wireless keyboard and optical mouse
size tower

Again any help please.

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Of those #3
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the 1tb will be slower than molasses moving upheld in the arctic, do the best you can to get an ssd that will hold what you store
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#3. The other 2 are too old, and even with an SSD, they'll more than likely be slow too especially if they're used. Plus if you've never had an SSD, you won't know what you're missing so it won't be so bad.
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Of those 3 #3 would be my choice.
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Are they all the same price?

If you can add an SSD and maybe another 8gb of RAM to #3, it's the best. I've brought new life to two old computers, a desktop and a laptop, simply by replacing the hard drive with an SSD. Would not own or buy a pc without an SSD at this point.
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Are they all the same price?


1- $450
2- $599
3- $599

I was leaning to the #3

So what is SSD and what does it do?
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An SSD is a solid state drive. It is a hard drive but is made up of (near) instant access memory chips so it is very fast to access programs, etc. versus a regular hard drive which has to spin the disk and move a mechanical head to read the disk. So an SSD is much much faster for booting up, running Windows and associated programs, etc. Probably add $100 or under to add a 500gb SSD and worth every penny.
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What do you do with it?

Any of them will be fine for email, web surf and the occasional document. Even the occasional picture crop and resize.

Buy on price and guarantee...most computer problems surface in the first 30 days.


If you want to edit videos and play games, none of them.



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If you want to edit videos and play games, none of them.


No for email, internet, excel and pics of coins with Canon camera.
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Thanks KenKat I will ask.
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So it's a done deal got #3 BUT I did get them to change the 1TB drive to a 500 SSD for $130, anyone need a new 1TB drive.

Thanks to all who helped.
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Man, those SSD prices are more than I would have thunk. I purchased a 1TB SS external USB drive for $80 about a year ago. Why are the internals so much more?
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That should give you plenty of years of good solid service.

My main machine is from 2014. I dropped an SSD drive into it a couple of years back.

Last month I looked at "upgrading" to a new machine but realized it wouldn't really improve things...

I can get a PC with more cores, but for web surfing and Excel, it really only uses one core anyway. I can get a PC with a (slightly) faster processor, but (If I do what I've always done, buy a processor one notch below the latest and greatest) it's only going to shave a second off a recalc since I might get a CPU that bursts to 4.5GHz instead of the 3.9GHz single-core burst frequency I have today.

The new generation PCIe NVMe SSDs are much faster than the older SATA SSDs but that's only going to get me another second or two on a save.

So I happily chug along on a 5-year-old machine.


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Man, those SSD prices are more than I would have thunk. I purchased a 1TB SS external USB drive for $80 about a year ago. Why are the internals so much more?


So that $80 US equals $108 Canadian or so.
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