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Interesting 1934 D LWC. Looks Like A Major Unlisted RPM!

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I bought this one out of the curiosity factor alone. I think it could be an EDS RPM that faded away quickly as it isn't very deep into the die. The seller has great pics so I'm posting those. I'll have in hand photos this week! What do you see?
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Hard to be 100% on those types of RPMs, but looks good to me and really, really great find if you can get it attributed.
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I scrolled through Variety Vista and Wexler's and couldn't see anything that matched, but from your photos it looks to be a legitimate D/D. I'd wait for experts to chime in, but it couldn't hurt to get it authenticated.
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Thanks guys we'll see if anyone debunks this one but like y'all said it look great to me!

Where would be the best place to send it oor attributing?
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Probably James Wiles would be best for something like this.
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Also, to add this on. You said it may have been a function of die stage, but consider that this obverse die is LDS, if it was undiscovered purely due to the fact it was an EDS only RPM, this wouldn't be possible. Playing devils advocate
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You love doing that. I'm always positive on your post grape! Even if I don't really like the variety you post. You've been beating me up a lil
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Sorry if it seems that way will. I respect you quite a bit in the varieties community on here. I think it's a legit RPM, I just like to play the analytical POV.
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No problem grape. I am wrong about the Eds because of the dd on the left vest and the cracks at the base. It just seemed the most logical explanation of why this coin hasn't been discovered!

And I see you snuck that varieties part in there. I don't admit to being a coin grader but I get low balled on there. Some of these I'm sending in to get graded after a sell a couple grand worth of pics on ebay!
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It looks good to me.
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I would send James Wiles this image to let him see what he thinks.
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I emailed him. He sent me a generic response, I'm going to send it to him when it in hand. It does look nice from here.
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John Wexler offered a theory to explain the late die state appearance of the disputed 1956-D/S (1956-D WOMM-001):

In the Wexler Files we believe that the S mint mark was punched more deeply into the die than the abrasion die scratches. As the die scratches wore away, the remnants of the S mint mark became more visible as the die scratches no longer masked the mint mark. A Stage C specimen of the variety found by Bill Affanato shows a nearly complete S mint mark outline. Stage B specimens which still have a large number of die scratches do show a significant amount of the S mint mark when the coin is tilted in the light at the proper angle.


If Wexler's basic theory is correct- die wear revealing, rather than obscuring - you could have an RPM that may not be visible in earlier die states. Just some food for thought.
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Nice Fort Collins. The opposite of my original theory! Could be.
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I think the side the RPM has a lot to do with it. On the right side of the mintmark, the die flow lines can enhance a RPM. On the left side, they last in shape because of the location next to the mintmark or other devices.
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The closer they are to another device, the longer they last. The further they get from a device, the quicker some fade.
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This one seems to get stronger as the die ages.

Does this one fades out on the later die states?
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Why? Just depends on how strong/weak they are from the miss punch.
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It certainly looks like it could be legit.

Fortcollins and Coop beat me to the reasoning about the strength of some MM's. Most seem to get weaker, but sometimes it does get stronger in later die states.
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