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Valued Member
United States
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I went to my LCS yesterday, bought a few things including a bunch of post-64 mint cello cut-outs because they sell them to me for only 1.25 X face. I went ahead and got every single copper penny and even some zincs, because why not? At home I decided to go through the navy blue Philly's first, save the aqua blue older ones for last. So this one threw me for a loop. It's a nice uncirculated penny, I'm guessing used with many others to pass off a bunch of counterfeit halves, quarters and/or dimes as real silver, or some other kind of ruse. But it's all kinds of weird, what they got right and what they got wrong. The cellophane is the softer, flexible kind of the earlier mint sets, and they even found a crimper that makes the correct impression pattern. And they did bother to use a nice uncirculated Lincoln. But the blister was badly made, with the crimping bunched in spots so that it doesn't lie flat at all, and the blister is too roomy, you can just shake the coin all around in it. Oh, and of course, why did they use color edging at all, let alone the post-1981 navy blue?! They even matched the color perfectly. WHY?  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Interesting. I have a container full of cut out, still-in-cello cents from uncirculated sets spanning many years. I estimate that around 60% of those cut outs allow the cent to slide around rather freely. The quality of crimping varies--some is excellent, most is okay, some is weak/uneven.
Looking forward to what others have to say.
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Valued Member
 United States
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But did you notice the year of this one? The mints didn't use any color edging on the cellophane until 1968. And Philadelphia started with aqua blue, then switched to navy in 1981.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Valued Member
United States
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What on EArth?!! Both sets have both colors (and again in 1962 they should have none). Obviously these are people making fake mint sets, for what reason I don't know because they're not that popular; that's why they get cut up! But also if you're going to go through the trouble with finding the right cellophane and crimper, why not at least ask yourself if the colors might mean anything? This has to be some Chinese sh.....
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I believe there is 2 sets involved here, the proof set, with no color on the border, and the un circulated set, with either blue or red borders..
Your coin came from the uncirculated set.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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 Proof set..  Un circulated set.. |
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United States
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Well this is getting frustrating. As with everything on the internet, it can be hard to tell whether you're reading false information that the person is just repeating from a false source or not. Maybe I'm not using the right search terms, but I keep running across this paragraph about 1968:
"Original packaging: The new Mint Sets retained the old Pliofilm packaging, but with a twist. To differentiate official Mint Sets from privately made sets, the Mint added color to the edge of the plastic: blue for the Philadelphia and San Francisco coins, and red for the Denver coins (the addition of colored edging was actually proposed in 1964). The five coins from the Denver Mint were placed in one pliofilm package, while the Philadelphia and San Francisco were combined in another. The two pliofilm packs were inserted, along with two plain cards, into a mailing envelope for shipment to customers."
In other words, before 1968, all sets (mint and proof) had NO coloring on the edges. So that would mean that any pre-68 sets WITH coloring were assembled by private entities, not original sets produced by the mints. Do you remember where you got those photos? I sure wish this information was available somewhere with authority, like PCGS or the mints themselves. I will admit that where I find that paragraph is sales sites. So I still do not know the truth for sure.
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Posted 12/18/2019 9:33 pm
