Thoughts On This 1958-P Lincoln Memorial Cent / LMC ... Thanks

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Jatour Valued Member United States 185 Posts	Posted 01/01/2020 11:31 am I know the light on them isn't perfect in the pictures but with the naked eye the doubling is serious. it's like a pretzel the letters are all twisted and entwined together is pretty cool I'm tryin to get a good close up of it I just need to take a break for awhile. The full coin pic was my pathetic first attempt This coin is lit AF. Edited by Jatour 01/01/2020 11:37 am Report this Post to the Staff

fortcollins Pillar of the Community United States 3667 Posts	Posted 01/01/2020 11:49 am I think I can see the die polishing markers between Lincoln's head and GOD and above the date that correspond with 1958P-1DO-001 on coppercoins.com. A reverse photo and clearer photos of (1) "TRU" in TRUST, (2) the area between the head and GOD, and (3) the date and area just above the date would help with the ID. Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 01/01/2020 1:06 pm Lighting angles make this difficult to assess, at least for me. Report this Post to the Staff
Jatour Valued Member United States 185 Posts	Posted 01/01/2020 2:42 pm Die marker photos u asked for fort Collins thanks for takin a look. Report this Post to the Staff
fortcollins Pillar of the Community United States 3667 Posts	Posted 01/01/2020 5:21 pm I can't tell from the photos. There is just too much glare to be sure. The T in TRUST looks fairly close to 1958P-1DO-001 on coppercoins.com. The RU of TRUST are not clear enough in the photos to make a call. I don't see the die scratches above the date. None of the photos are clear enough to make this marker ID. I see scratches from the head near the D in GOD. They are in the right place, but do not look as bold as the known markers. I don't see the die scratches above and below LIBERTY. None of the photos are clear enough to make this marker ID. I see parallel die scratches from I of UNITED to the first A of AMERICA. They are in the right place, but do not look as bold as the known markers. None of the photos capture the area between E of ONE and the T of CENT, where other marker scratches exist. The B of LIBERTY has a die crack through the top loop and a die chip in the lower loop. Neither of these appear on 1958P-1DO-001. The die state of this coin is later than the pictured example for 1958P-1DO-001. There is more evidence of Die Deterioration, especially on LIBERTY. The best I can offer here is The photos simply aren't clear enough to make a positive rule in / rule out determination. The 1958P-1DO-001 is a subtle DDO, and it needs clear markers to help with the ID. Report this Post to the Staff
Rackster Pillar of the Community United States 4809 Posts	Posted 01/01/2020 5:37 pm It looks normal to me. The glare is making it tricky. Report this Post to the Staff
Jatour Valued Member United States 185 Posts	Posted 01/02/2020 09:38 am I'm deleting this post and gonna post a new topic look for it. I think the pictures will be 100 percent better better Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 01/02/2020 11:55 am No way is this 1958 DDO-001. How many devices have to look the same as an attributed die? All of them have to match exactly. Note the motto and Liberty also on the DDO-001. Your coin is nothing like this die number. Report this Post to the Staff
fortcollins Pillar of the Community United States 3667 Posts	Posted 01/02/2020 6:07 pm @coop, the issue is coppercoins.com 1958P-1DO-001, which isn't the big one. The similar numbering systems are the issue. The coin clearly isn't the major DDO. The issue is whether it is the minor DDO that only has weak Class V doubling on the TRU of TRUST. Basically, this coin either is a generic 5 cent BU or a $1 minor DDO BU. Report this Post to the Staff
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Thoughts On This 1958-P LMC ... Thanks