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I've been looking for this issue (23-S) in AU-58, but something doesn't look right on this specimen. Polished? Is this an obvious mistake by ANACS? Plus, these apparent hairlines, are they die polishing marks or just smudges on the slab plastic?  233458730216Also, look at this seller's other current coins; a bunch of ANACS Mercury dimes, several are details cleaned.  The strike looks great, but I'm guessing PCGS/NGC would deem this one cleaned. What do others think? Thanks! |
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Bedrock of the Community
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No returns? Forget it.  |
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The obverse sure looks polished . reverse looks normal .
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Die polish lines in my opinion.
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Can't tell from those images, ANACS graders would have to be drunk if they didn't spot that being polished.
And why just do the polishing on one side? I still think its the way the pictures being taken.
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Bedrock of the Community
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No argument, but I repeat - no return privileges - why? Pass.
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01/07/2020 8:46 pm
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Die polish lines in my opinion.  |
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I don't know what it is, but I don't like it.
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My conversation with the seller earlier tonight: ME: Quote:I really like this coin, it has a really great strike, but it does look a bit odd. What I mean is that it looks polished. Also, I see a bunch of apparent hairlines/smudges. Are these on the plastic slab? If they are on the coin itself, they could be scratches or they could also be die polishing lines (if they are raised from the coin's surface). I see you've also just listed a bunch of other ANACS slabbed Mercury dimes, several of which were deemed cleaned.
I'd like to bid on this, but with your "no returns" I can only return the item if I say it is "not as described". A full return policy would be better. In any event, can you possibly provide other photos, I can't discern any mint luster on this coin. An AU-58 should have nearly full luster. Thanks so much, I appreciate your assistance. ebay seller tutbtaz861: Quote:The problem I'm having with pictures is my smartphone doesn't take better pictures being in the case makes taking pictures even more difficult. The reason I don't have return policy on graded coins is they are graded by reputable companies. If you disagree with the grade they gave the coin. It's nothing I've done wrong they each have guarantees to their grade. Several coins I sent off said Cleaned some of which I didn't agree but that's what they graded so I have to live with the grade.
I had an entire Mercury dime set. About 1/4 have come back Cleaned and the rest AU56 to MS65. On raw coins I don't mind taking returns. I have watch lots of YouTube on grading coins. Even the experts have disagreements with some grading. On the coin grading I'm going to rely on the grading companies and their grade. Thanks So it seems there were several coins from this set that were borderline on being polished, and maybe ANACS let a few slip by. This whole BS story about he can't take photos on his smartphone [*we need an eye rolling emoji*] Kind of sucks because I thought ANACS was reputable, but maybe macmercury is right, maybe the bad photos make the obverse look polished AND those are actually die polishing marks (quite a lot of them)...kind of neat if they are I guess. Is it possible that a coin struck soon after heavy die polishing could itself look polished, devices and fields? Edited by one_fine_dime
01/07/2020 11:19 pm
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I just took a look at some of his other coins graded by ANACS, and some do have that look of being polished, it's the way he photo these slabs. It might have been down res for it to be upload to ebay. |
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Another message from the seller: Quote:
I forgot to answer about how bright the coins look. I paid ANACS to conserve the dimes. They were in a folder for 50 years and had some dark toning not eye appealing at all, so I paid to have them conserved. Now most look like the day they were minted with mint luster. Thanks Does this strike anyone as odd? I'm surprised the ANACS slab doesn't indicate conservation. |
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And for a minute I thought that it was very, very rare 23S Proof.  Sure looks like a proof  |
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Pass, The most likely has an acceptable market cleaning and appears to have been dipped.
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...and appears to have been dipped. Ok, so I just called ANACS and inquired about their conservation service. The woman I spoke to indicated that the coin would have been chemically dipped by ANACS. She confirmed that unlike NGC's NCS service, there is nothing whatsoever on the ANACS slab indicating it received such a "conservation" treatment, nor is there anything on the ANACS cert verification page indicating such treatment. So it seems the coin likely looks shiny like this due to the chemical dip...performed by ANACS!! I may inform this seller that many numismatists may actually find the toned specimen more desirable! Am I right? |
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I just looked at the 5 coins I had conserved by NCS. Nowhere does it say conserved, why would it? So I'm not sure where you got that idea from. Chemical dips will remove toning but they will not make a coin look shiny like it has been polished. Whether I want a coin conserved/dipped or not depends on how ugly or attractive the toning is. If you don't like the coin because it's too shiny, don't buy it. Oh, and ANACS graded one of my coins as polished. That was back when I was new and didn't know the difference. So they do get some right. I think, like other people on here have said, it's just tough to take a pic of a coin in a slab. Especially with just a cell phone camera. I trust ANACS more than I trust you, or some guy on ebay. I don't think they got anything wrong. But I also would not buy the coin because of the no return policy. When I sell coins on ebay I let anybody return anything for any reason. Graded or not. |
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The lines don't cross over the devices, I think they look like die polishing lines, and probably not as noticeable in hand. But not accepting returns sure limits his potential buyer pool.
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