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Some Of My Recent Half Crown Purchases, 1670 And 1746 Lima

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What would you grade these?


Some-Of-My-Recent-Half-Crown-Purchases,-1670-And-1746-Lima
Some-Of-My-Recent-Half-Crown-Purchases,-1670-And-1746-Lima

1670 Half crown - sold to me as gFine F15


Some-Of-My-Recent-Half-Crown-Purchases,-1670-And-1746-Lima

Some-Of-My-Recent-Half-Crown-Purchases,-1670-And-1746-Lima

This was ungraded, but cheap - I would say VG10 or F11 with a weak obverse strike.

How Close AM I?

Thanks
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I don't prefer using Sheldon grading on British coins.

Charles 11: nearly Fine. A small amount of hair detail has worn flat. If all of the shape of the hair design detail had been there, it would be rated at Fine.

George 11: nearly VG. Eye detail is often worn flat before any other design feature with coins of George 11. Reverse is better.



My 1746 Half Crown example of George 11 was graded by the dealer at gVF, but I disagree with that, and would rate it at gF.
Mine came cheap also, but it shows signs of loop mount removed from the edge, not visible on either the obverse or reverse.
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Thanks for your input.

I think you are being a little severe and have noticed you have graded low for most people offering coins for gradery.

Yet I kind of agree with you, here in New Zealand - people wildly overgrade stuff they sell and while I think the coins are not gFine now or gVG - I think Charles II is at least a Full fine and even a Fine+. The coins surface is nothing lke a coin in good grades, all lettering is clear and the only flattening is in the middle of the obverse and I blame that on a weak strike as milled coining was still a new concept at the time.

Some British coins like George VI and Victoria can have parts of flat or worn hair even in the high VF gardes let alone Very Good ones.

I don't really Sheldon or British grading is much different and skip between the two all the time. As I understand, F12 and Fine are the same quality and British Fair is really a grade bnetween G4 and VG8.

As my rule I use Sheldon for coins up to VF and British garding for coins Fine and better. Only as the British scale goes Fine, fair, Poor whereas the Sheldon is F, VG, G, AG, Fr, P and all the inbetweens for between Good and Fine.

But thanks for your input, it helps and now I know our coin market is a little overheated and I understand coin grading is not an exact science.
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