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2017 Enhanced Jefferson Nickel With A SP 70 By PCGS

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bought his coin with a grade of 70, but the edge of the coin at the back of the head has obvious dents on them. They are noticeable to the naked eyes. Not sure why it is graded 70.
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Dents and planchet issues are different
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PCGS, ANACS, and NGC are for-profit companies, not ahistorical preservation or honesty service. Considering a 1973 D Nickel struck on a 3.1g copper coated zinc that NGC clearly labeled as being struck on a "dime" planchet popped up recently...the only thing that surprises me about these kinds of issues is that they surprise anyone, anymore.

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You speak of dents on the rev, but only post the obv. Why? if you are going to complain about mis grading due to dents you need to show them.
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The OP mentioned "the edge of the coin at the back of the head has obvious dents on them" -- that's the obverse, which is showing, and I see the dents in question, about 10- to 11 o'clock in the image.
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What you are seeing is a reality behind grading companies. They are not what their marketers make them out to be. They are businesses that exist to make a profit (not a bad thing), but their claims of expertise often do not match their product. It is not too hard to find things like you have as well as other problems.

There are die hard collectors who have invested a ton of money into these slabbed coins who will fight to the death to try to get others to believe the grading companies are necessary for the hobby and THE last word in numismatics. All of the spent money "needs" to have the product be what it claims.
Reality, such as your coin, shows otherwise.
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Got to learn to slow down my reading. Saw "one the back" and immediately thought Reverse.

You're right those marks on the rim are definitely post strike damage. The coin should not have gotten a 70.
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Is it possible this is finning? I'm remembering that was an issue with the 2016 gold Mercury dimes and at least a few of those got 70s. This may not be smooth enough for that though.
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Is it possible this is finning? I'm remembering that was an issue with the 2016 gold Mercury dimes and at least a few of those got 70s. This may not be smooth enough for that though.


Some planchet or die issue. Those sets were overwhelmingly submitted in their original packaging and that one came from the mint like that.
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