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Some of the devices on this nickel are somewhat reminiscent of the ones affected by the doubled Master hub issues seen on many the 1972 Lincoln cents. More specifically the"N" and "U" devices on the penny btw. Unlike the 1972 however, I have searched around and have not been able to find this specific issue noted anywhere on any of the sites. Am I looking at a new variety or am I missing something? Your feedback is greatly appreciated! Cheers!   
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Bedrock of the Community
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So far all I'm seeing is reduction of the devices from the images provided. (MD)
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I thought the action on the "1" and the "L" in Liberty looked promising (think of the "N" on the motto of the 72). Are you sure Coop?
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I was just pointing out that those appear to be the most impacted other devices that I noticed. The collage below features WDDO - 003 on top of the coin that I posted. This was from Brian varieties website BTW. They both appear to be relatively the same in terms of thickness.  Here's a comparison of the dates, DDO-005 with mine ( I would have reused the number 3, but that listing did not have anything showing for the date). 
Edited by CouchDiver1978 02/04/2020 10:15 pm
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Guess that's it. Thank you for the feedback Coop.
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On a doubled die like 1961 WDDO-003, comparing thickness is mostly useless because of how slight the doubling is. The doubling on WDDO-003 shows as the slight separation on the inside of the letters, most noticeable on the B and R. You have to match the separation for these 1961 DDOs. The extra thickness would be negligible.
Your photos would not be able to show this separation well. It is nearly impossible for us to say it isn't one of the really minor ones like WDDO-003, but it's equally as difficult to say it is.
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Thank you for your comments Tanman2001.
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Edited by CouchDiver1978 12/25/2021 9:51 pm
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It is Machine Doubling. Go back on my images to see the difference. Machine Doubling appears on the vertical devices on your coin. On my coin the spread is horizontal. Take another look. The tops and bottoms are showing the spread. On your coin, there is only contour removal in the vertical outside edges of the devices. That is what you are seeing. Spread shows are an enlarged area in the centers of the devices. Machine Doubling is caused by the machine. A doubled die shows enlargement on the devices on the dies. Machine Doubling can also affect doubled dies as well. Machine Doubling can not create a doubled die.
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How is this not a split seraph? There is likely some machine action going on in areas, but Machine Doubling cannot produce a split seraph like this. 
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Caused by the Machine Doubling. A doubled die is not just notching on devices. It is the spread that causes notching that is a doubled die. 27
Edited by coop 12/27/2021 02:12 am
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