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 Posted 10/24/2008  2:50 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Norcal Jim to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
How long is it safe to soak a silver coin in acetone and at what point is it just not going to do any more?
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 Posted 10/24/2008  2:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You could soak it for weeks and it will not harm the coin. However, it should do its job within minutes. If the gunk does not come off or at least begin to come off after 5-10 minutes, then it is probably inorganic.
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 Posted 10/24/2008  3:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TreasHunt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just looking at the poster's name: 'biokemist6'
I would presume that he is correct.
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 Posted 10/24/2008  7:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not long ago someone posted a link to an article on how Acetone will ruin a coin if left in and the sun hits it. Naturally I just had to try this. I placed several coins in a very cleaned glass jar with very pure Acetone, Lab quality, from our labs. I placed the jar in my garage, in the dark for several days. Not much happened. I then placed the jar in a Southery window in the garage for several days. Still not much happened. I then placed the jar on my lawn, in the Sunniest place I could find and after several more days still not much happened. Had to move it or hit it with the lawn mower eventually.
Originally all coins were just plain coins except an old, beat up Mercury dime. Others were a Quarter, Roosevelt dime, Lincoln Cent and a Jefferson nickel. After several weeks of this nonsense all coins looked basically as they did when I first placed them in the Acetone. Possibly the Roosevelt dime looked a bit shinny but otherwise not much happened.
Of course the article about how Acetone ruins coins if left in the sun might have been referring to a different sun.
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 Posted 10/25/2008  5:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratio411 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you have a very nice coin, but it shows a fingerprint
smudge, would acetone be safe for that coin?

Acetone should remove skin oils... Right?
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 Posted 10/25/2008  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add markn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Acetone will only remove the finger oils, it will not change the surface of the metal if the oils have started to tone the coin or etch the surface.
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Acetone should not hurt your coins. Remember we are talking about acetone - pure - not finger nail polish or others such items. They contain other chemicals that may harm your coins.

just carl, maybe not a different sun. Maybe much CLOSER
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Well, I missed the last post...
I went to a 40% 1976 quarter I have with a huge fingerprint
on the obverse. It already had a mark on the cheek when I
got it, then the fingerprint probably came from one of my
kids getting ahold of it. It is a common coin that I exposed
to the kids in lieu of less common coins... And it is a coin
that I was willing to experiment with on this subject.

Like I said, I missed the part about "no fingernail polish
remover". So that is what I used. Again, though, common coin.

It removed the entire fingerprint oil smudge. There was
however, some of the print left behind lightly in a central
area. Probably where the most pressure was applied. The
remainder was not oil or smudge though. It appeared to be
actual degradation or damage to the surface from the oils
being present over a long time.

So, as mentioned in previous posts, the oil is gone, damage
from 15 years of oil is there.

I guess time will only tell if the use of non-pure acetone
will be an issue.
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If you buy some pure acetone soon, re-rinse the coin. Any contaminants from the fingernail polish remover, would be soluble in acetone and should rinse off. You were somewhat lucky, as I have found there is just a small window time wise from when you can see a fingerprint and it becoming a permanent feature.

for copper, here is a link to my answer on a different site.
http://www.cointalk.org/showthread....e#post445904

Jim

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I use acetone on a lot of copper coins that are brown only, and nickel coins to remove any contaminants on the coin before submitting to a TPG service. Remember to rinse well and pat dry. like meantion above finger prints that show on a coin is usally to late to totally remove and soaking the coin only really works for the first 10 minutes or so.
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just carl, maybe not a different sun. Maybe much CLOSER


AHHH, so that is what I missed. Next shuttle to Venus I'll take some Actone, coins and jar and let everyone know the results.
Finger nail polish is normally a no-no for coins. HOWEVER, as with many products manufactured by organizations, each brand is different so again, you may have been lucky to have used a product with less damaging solutions mixed in that product. As already noted to play safe, in the future use pure Acetone and rinse with distilled water.
Even now you should dip any coins in Distilled water that you exposed to fingernail polish.
Note it is seldom the oils in your fingers that damage a coin. You body also secretes acids and the finger prints slowly etch into the coins due to the oils that contain those acids. Your body also secretes lots of other chemicals. For example animals sence your fear since your body secretes Ammonia fumes when your scared. And of course you can imagine what gasses are given off from some people that stink. And this goes onto coins?
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I have a friend who used to drink so much tomato juice that he had high-acid sweat. He could grab a gun or a knife and within minutes you'd see his prints, even thru bluing.
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just remember to rinse well, to remove the smell.
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anyone put a proof in acetone?
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Yes, but you have to be careful with proofs. You must make sure that your work area is not a cool temperature. The acetone needs to flash off quickly or it could leave a slight haze.
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